[Jhs-leads] RE: [Jhs-mgmt] RE: links broken

[Kennedy, Barbara]

Ivan,

Yes, T2 speaks the truth that ISDM is mandated by law.  It is also true =
that
the DEP ISDM is a very slim document and many of the deliverables are =
given
only a very general description, sometimes not much more than a name.  =
You
may wish to take a look at it:

http://www.dep.state.fl.us/applications/docs/isdm.pdf

What we do here to further define the deliverables is write 'standards'. =
 For
example, a quick description of an Entity Relationship Diagram in the =
ISDM
has been fleshed out an extensive document with naming conventions, how =
to
put an ER into Oracle Designer, which Designer reports to submit for =
review,
etc.  Current standards are available on the BIS Applications web pages:

http://www.dep.state.fl.us/applications/standards.htm
http://www.dep.state.fl.us/applications/toolkit/tkdefault.htm


The standards can and do change over time as our needs change.  For =
example,
for a large multi-year integration project like the IMS Project, we had =
to
put a number of more substantial standards in place.  (The ISDM calls =
this
'customization'.)

The ISDM is more than ten years old so you are correct that it did not
anticipate object oriented development methodologies.  (Of course, we =
are not
fully in the object oriented world even with our J2EE projects because =
we
have a relational database which J2EE projects share with non-object =
oriented
development.)

To handle "what's hot" in development, once again we can use the =
technique of
customizing via new standards.  That's what we were talking about in =
email
yesterday, what changes we may need to make to such deliverables as the
Impact Assessment and Migration Deliverables to make them appropriate =
for
J2EE development.  While it might be a stretch to map some of the ISDM
deliverables to good object oriented practice, I personally don't see =
any
problem with modifying the deliverables I just mentioned to work with =
JHS
and/or HP-UX J2EE application server deployment - THIS JUST NEEDS TO BE =
DONE
BEFORE ANY J2EE PROJECTS NEED THESE DELIVERABLES.

If Linc wants to create and maintain web pages on JHS that provide the =
ISDM
customized by a set of standards appropriate for J2EE development, I =
think
that would be great.  (The key word here would be 'maintain'.)

Thanks.

Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: jhs-mgmt-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:jhs-mgmt-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us]On Behalf Of Kirkpatrick,
Ivan
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:09 PM
To: Smith, Louis L.; jhs-leads@lists.dep.state.fl.us;
jhs-mgmt@lists.dep.state.fl.us
Cc: terry.tizzard@dep.state.fl.us
Subject: [Jhs-mgmt] RE: links broken


For those recipients not aware of the link in question:

http://epic51.dep.state.fl.us/gis-mdf/ and the menu on the left side of =
the
web page.

They are placeholders..... as Linc's project progresses the docs he =
creates
for his project would be filled in, or the links adjusted so that they
reference a document stored elsewhere but hopefully available via the =
web.
If not available on the web, storing the docs in a "well known location" =
is
certainly okay from the JHS perspective. =20

As Linc explained in his forwarding email, not every doc in the ISDM =
list
would necessarily be used.  Some projects are too small to warrant the =
full
ISDM suite of potential documents.  We used to call this tailoring of =
the
document list to suit the specific needs of a project.

It should also be pointed out that the ISDM methodology is apparently
mandated  as Terry Tizzard showed me.  This particular methodology is =
ill
suited to small, rapidly developed J2EE (Object Oriented) projects.  In
general the methodology in the ISDM is ill suited to modern Object =
Oriented
software development.


-----Original Message-----
From:	Smith, Louis L.
Sent:	Wed 1/26/2005 4:02 PM
To:	Kirkpatrick, Ivan
Cc:=09
Subject:	links broken
the site you referenced us to.. the .pdf links all show as '404' =
errors...


 <<Smith, Louis L..vcf>>=20






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