[Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste digest, Vol 1 #156 - 1 msg
Andria Ventura
aventura@cleanwater.org
Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:39:35 -0700
Did you have any difficulty working with the Police Dept. regarding them
taking the controlled substances? If so, how did you overcome it?
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:53:02 -0400
From: "Tenace, Laurie" <Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us>
To: <pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us>
Subject: [Pharmwaste] DEA "obstacle"
Hi all,
Everything that Richard says is the same as our understanding in Maine =
about
how controlled substances must be handled except I have never heard of =
"some
correspondence from the DEA that indicates "..controlled substances =
cannot
be commingled with the non- controlled substances..". Correspondence is =
not
the same as statute or regulations, nor even department policy. If =
possible
it would be good to know more about what correspondence, when and by =
whom
etc. In fact this is different from what Vicki Seegars, (DEA =
Washington)
has said, where as long as you do not "knowingly" accept controlled
substances, it would be ok to collect any unwanted medications at a
collection event.
Maine collections that have involved my office have taken the safeguard =
of
separating controlled meds and sending them off with a police officer, =
and
we will continue to do so. Still we came to an understanding that a
collection could happen that co-mingled controlled and non-controlled =
and
everything would be Fed-exed at the end of the event for a witnessed =
burn.
Ann =20
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:57:28 -0700
Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste digest, Vol 1 #153 - 1 msg
One question - how do people know if their prescription is controlled? =
For
instance, Ritalin is a controlled substance, but many parents/patients =
do
not know that. This adds to the problem in that it requires public =
education
to keep these pharmaceuticals separate.
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:17:45 -0400
Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste digest, Vol 1 #152 - 1 msg
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Tammy and Jennifer:
Regarding the Thu, 6 Oct 2005 e-mail about local pharmacy take-backs:
Some clarification and amplification of the statement: "If they [the =
=3D20
pharmacy] are accepting controlled substances..." needs to be made.
Pharmacies cannot accept controlled substances from citizens =3D20 =
legally.
DEA will not allow it, as the CSA only allows for transfer =3D20 of =
controlled
substances with in a closed-loop framework: from one =3D20 DEA =
Registrant to
another. Once dispensed to a citizen, it is =3D20 outside of the DEA's
closed-system of distribution. A citizen is not =3D20=3D
a Registrant of the DEA, and therefore it is not legal to transfer =3D20 =
the
controlled substances to the pharmacy.
However, the DEA, in 21 CFR 1301.24 waives the registration =3D20 =
requirement
for local law enforcement acting in official duty. **The =3D20=3D
police department you mention would be accepting controlled =3D20 =
substances
(versus the pharmacy.)** This little distinction is =3D20 important for =
all
to know.
Additionally, there has been some correspondence from the DEA that =3D20
indicates "..controlled substances cannot be commingled with the =
non-=3D20
controlled substances..." during these unwanted medication disposal =
=3D20
projects.
We call this issue "the DEA obstacle", and we brought this matter up =
=3D20 two
weeks ago with the DEA. While on an invited panel discussion =3D20 with =
the
headquarter DEA folks, Strong characterized the current laws =3D20=3D
as a regulatory roadblock, not allowing for an efficient means of =3D20
recapturing unwanted controlled substances - thus hindering the =3D20 =
entire
pharmaceutical collection effort.
DEA's response was well received, and we believe that DEA recognizes =
=3D20
more each year that this as an issue that must be addressed. DEA is =
=3D20
hand-tied because the law simply doesn't allow for distribution/=3D20
transaction between the consumer (non-registrant) and any other =3D20 =
entity
(except law enforcement as we have seen).
DEA, understandably, has reason to be wary of this sort of =
'reverse-=3D20
distribution; however, they also clearly see the net benefit.
So, a change must be made to the law that restricts the transactions =
=3D20
from consumers. Specifically, we are suggesting 21 CFR part 1307.21, =
=3D20 and
related affected sections, be modified to achieve the goal. =3D20 =
Strong will
work with DEA to suggest and implement a regulatory =3D20 mechanism that
achieves the mutual goals of properly governed disposal.
Regards,
Richard Verch, CHMM
President
770.409.1500 x111
770.409.1449 fax
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Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste digest, Vol 1 #153 - 1 msg
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:06:42 -0500
From: "Charlotte A. Smith" <csmith@pharmecology.com>
To: <aventura@cleanwater.org>, <pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us>
Unfortunately the markings for a controlled substance are only on the
original manufacturer's package, indicating a CII, CIII, etc. There are =
no
specific markings on the prescription label. That is why a pharmacist =
is
needed to identify which drugs can be accepted at a collection site. A
change in the Controlled Substances Act is needed and the Drug =
Enforcement
Administration is beginning to consider such as change.=3D20
Charlotte A. Smith, R. Ph., M.S., HEM
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[mailto:pharmwaste-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Andria =
Ventura
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:57 PM
To: pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste digest, Vol 1 #153 - 1 msg
One question - how do people know if their prescription is controlled?
For instance, Ritalin is a controlled substance, but many =
parents/patients
do not know that. This adds to the problem in that it requires public
education to keep these pharmaceuticals separate.
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From: Richard Verch <Richard@StrongServices.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:17:45 -0400
Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste digest, Vol 1 #152 - 1 msg
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Tammy and Jennifer:
Regarding the Thu, 6 Oct 2005 e-mail about local pharmacy take-backs:
Some clarification and amplification of the statement: "If they [the =3D =
=3D3D20
pharmacy] are accepting controlled substances..." needs to be made.
Pharmacies cannot accept controlled substances from citizens =3D3D20 =
legally.
DEA will not allow it, as the CSA only allows for transfer =3D =3D3D20 =
of
controlled substances with in a closed-loop framework: from one =3D3D20 =
DEA
Registrant to another. Once dispensed to a citizen, it is =3D3D20 =
outside of
the DEA's closed-system of distribution. A citizen is not =3D3D20=3D3D
a Registrant of the DEA, and therefore it is not legal to transfer =
=3D3D20 the
controlled substances to the pharmacy.
However, the DEA, in 21 CFR 1301.24 waives the registration =3D3D20
requirement for local law enforcement acting in official duty. **The
=3D3D20=3D3D
police department you mention would be accepting controlled =3D3D20 =
substances
(versus the pharmacy.)** This little distinction is =3D3D20 important =
for all
to know.
Additionally, there has been some correspondence from the DEA that =
=3D3D20
indicates "..controlled substances cannot be commingled with the =3D =
non-=3D3D20
controlled substances..." during these unwanted medication disposal =3D =
=3D3D20
projects.
We call this issue "the DEA obstacle", and we brought this matter up =3D =
=3D3D20
two weeks ago with the DEA. While on an invited panel discussion =
=3D3D20 with
the headquarter DEA folks, Strong characterized the current laws =
=3D3D20=3D3D
as a regulatory roadblock, not allowing for an efficient means of =
=3D3D20
recapturing unwanted controlled substances - thus hindering the =3D3D20 =
entire
pharmaceutical collection effort.
DEA's response was well received, and we believe that DEA recognizes =3D =
=3D3D20
more each year that this as an issue that must be addressed. DEA is =3D =
=3D3D20
hand-tied because the law simply doesn't allow for distribution/=3D3D20
transaction between the consumer (non-registrant) and any other =3D3D20 =
entity
(except law enforcement as we have seen).
DEA, understandably, has reason to be wary of this sort of =3D =
'reverse-=3D3D20
distribution; however, they also clearly see the net benefit.
So, a change must be made to the law that restricts the transactions =3D =
=3D3D20
from consumers. Specifically, we are suggesting 21 CFR part 1307.21, =3D =
=3D3D20
and related affected sections, be modified to achieve the goal. =3D3D20
Strong will work with DEA to suggest and implement a regulatory =3D3D20
mechanism that achieves the mutual goals of properly governed disposal.
Regards,
Richard Verch, CHMM
President
770.409.1500 x111
770.409.1449 fax
www.StrongServices.com
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Supported by:
Beth Batelaan
770.409.1500 x142
Beth@StrongServices.com
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=3D3D20
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margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Tammy and =
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Jennifer:</DIV><DIV style=3D3D3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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=3D3D
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Regarding =
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the=3D3DA0Thu, 6 Oct 2005 e-mail about local pharmacy =3D =
take-backs:</DIV><DIV
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=3D =3D3D
style=3D3D3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
=3D3D
margin-left: 0px; ">Some clarification and amplification of the =3D3D
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substances..." needs to be made.=3D3DA0=3D3DA0</DIV><DIV =3D
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cannot accept controlled substances from citizens legally.=3D3DA0 DEA =
will =3D
=3D3D not allow it, as the CSA only allows for transfer of controlled =
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substances with in a closed-loop framework: from one DEA Registrant to =
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another.=3D3DA0 Once dispensed to a citizen, it is outside of the DEA's =
=3D =3D3D
closed-system of distribution.=3D3DA0=3D3DA0A citizen is not a =
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the =3D3D DEA, and therefore it is not legal to transfer the controlled
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enforcement acting in official duty.=3D3DA0 **The police =3D department =
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ago =3D3D
with the DEA.=3D3DA0 While on an invited panel discussion with the =3D3D
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regulatory roadblock, not allowing for an efficient means of recapturing =
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addressed. DEA is hand-tied because the law simply doesn't allow for =
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distribution/transaction between the consumer (non-registrant) and any =
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other entity (except law enforcement as we have =3D =
seen).=3D3DA0=3D3DA0</DIV><DIV
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the transactions from consumers. Specifically, we are suggesting 21 CFR =
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part 1307.21, and related affected sections, be modified to achieve the =
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