[Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol. 6, Issue 3 (RE: Non-incineration techniques frotreatingRxexpiredproducts)

Wed May 10 13:59:48 EDT 2006

Actually we do have a long history of successful "drop-vaults" in this
Country. Next to the ATM machine in the front of your old bank building
there is this long forgotten steel drawer built into the side of the bank
for night deposits..before our electronic check deposits?  Course, it did
take a bank's worth of money to buy them.  A search on drop vault on the net
will show a wide variety available for other uses today. Then there was the
GPS drop box I just saw at the Portland Oregon airport bolted into the
concrete deck of the parking lot. ( Enterprise rent  a car site.) It had a
pretty substantial lack of resilience to it when I accidentally backed into
it at 4:15 in the am. It is not clear to me though that there would be the
financial initial wherewithal to buy these in any quantity other than for
pilot projects as opposed to the 10's of thousands ( more?) that it would
take to blanket the US.  

Stevan Gressitt, M.D.

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From: Volkman, Jennifer [mailto:Jennifer.Volkman at state.mn.us] 
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:09 PM
To: gressitt; Bill Lewry; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol. 6,Issue 3 (RE:
Non-incineration techniques fro treatingRxexpired products)

YIKES!

What does anyone think about kiosks, perhaps located near a hospital/clinic
entrance that has 24 hour security.  People dump in their unused meds 11-7,
lock the container other hours.  (free meds would possibly be available at
the base of the kiosk if people drop them after hours).  Or at the police
station.  Perhaps it could have a built in shredder, something that could
also handle tennis shoes and pop bottles.

-----Original Message-----
From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of gressitt
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 6:55 PM
To: 'Bill Lewry'; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol. 6,Issue 3 (RE:
Non-incineration techniques fro treatingRxexpired products)

I appreciate the simplicity of the structure. 

Just for a minute could I consult with my two buddies out in the waiting
room named, anonymously, Larry and Curly, Moe was sick today and couldn't
make it even to the office. ( Doesn't that actually sound like a good reason
to see a doctor?) 

Larry has a new .38 and Curly has this newfangled thing called a Kimber .45.
They both have a shortage of oxycontin and have been dumpster diving outside
MD offices lately. Unsuccessfully. The "Anytown Village Press" has just
announced that HHW is going to have a Take-Back and they are very very
thirsty. Time for some target practice? Moe might even be healthy by
Saturday and he has a Beretta. 

Here is their offer to the HHW folks on the scheduled date and time: "We
will take care of your waste problem, just give us the box."  ( They were
grinning.)

Oh yes, Moe regained health miraculously and also had a mini-14.

Your reply?

Stevan Gressitt, M.D.

207-441-0291

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From: Bill Lewry [mailto:Bill_Lewry at kcmo.org] 
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:14 PM
To: Stevan Gressitt; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol. 6, Issue 3 (RE:
Non-incineration techniques fro treatingRx expired products)

To All:

The interest seems high, the solution is appearing simple under the existing
framework if municipalities and states should so choose.

Return it through HHW's (household hazardous waste Facilities.

How: ??

Relatively simply: 

*Affiliate HHW facilities with law enforcement agencies, either at
local, county, state or federal level. (considering what they handle - they
should be as matter of course??) 
*Have them contract with a DEA permitted incinerator, or... 
*By default, mixing with drum labelled D001 - flammable liquid, NOS -
consider the item destroyed in the blending process. It could then be used
as a fuel. DEA has the latitude to make this determination should it so
choose, as would local states or courts. 

Problem solved. To not use the simple, readily available and functional
would seem to create additional costs and issues for the public at large and
call into question the reasoning of those creating yet another burdensome
hoop for citizens at large. (pharmacies could even collect and a milk run be
set up whereby the pharmacies could pay a nominal fee (part of the cost of
doing business) for disposal services.

Inactive hide details for "Stevan Gressitt" <gressitt at uninets.net>"Stevan
Gressitt" <gressitt at uninets.net>

"Stevan Gressitt" <gressitt at uninets.net> 
Sent by: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us 

04/13/2006 08:06 PM

To

"'Jim Todd'" <jim at wastenotwashington.org>,
<pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>

cc

Subject

RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol. 6, Issue 3 (RE: Non-incineration
techniques fro treatingRx expired products)

I am interested as well. What happened to the incinerator permit for
Northern California ? Stevan Gressitt, M.D.

-----Original Message-----
From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Jim Todd
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:48 PM
To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol. 6,Issue 3 (RE:
Non-incineration techniques fro treatingRx expired products)

I share Ahmed Hamza's interest in non-incineration technologies for
disposing of unwanted pharmaceuticals.  Recycling of plastic medicine
containers, etc. is also of interest.

I would very much appreciate learning about the list serve mentioned by
Charlotte A. Smith.

Jim Todd
Project Manager
Pharmaceuticals Take-Back Project
***********************
WA Citizens for Resource Conservation
http://wastenotwashington.org/
2021 3rd Ave
Seattle, WA  98121
206.441.1791

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