[Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators

gressitt at uninets.net gressitt at uninets.net
Thu Feb 1 11:46:55 EST 2007


And they would not fall under state reguilatory guidance? What If say I
offered to get one of those contraptions and drove around the neiborhood
burning up only single family hazardous chemicals? no consolidation of any
kind. What then? Stevan Gressitt, M.D.

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> Stevan: The interesting question you raise - "how can they sell these
> things"
>
> Simple answer - the supreme court.
>
> In the 1800's there was a justice who did EVERYTHING pro industry &
> private
> property (see - history of the supreme court - PBS.) with the result that
> we still live with many of these issues today. It is vital to remember
> there is effectively NO GOVERNMENTAL CONSUMER PROTECTION IN THE UNITED
> STATES. (If there were - chem manufacturers and perfumers would be held to
> prove their materials safe BEFORE the lawsuits for damages and destroyed
> lives).
>
> One of those issues is that it's legal to manufacture and sell almost
> anything not specifically proscribed until one of 3 things happen.
>
>    You can't sell enough, or generate enough money from sales, so you go
>    broke.
>    Government specifically enacts a law preventing you.
>    You get sued so often for a faulty product - you go live in the Bahamas
>    from your ill gotten gains.
>
> So -  they can design, manufacture and sell - but it's up to you to figure
> out if it's legal to use.......................
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>              "gressitt"
>              <gressitt at uninets
>              .net>                                                      To
>                                        "'Volkman, Jennifer'"
>              01/31/2007 06:35          <Jennifer.Volkman at state.mn.us>,
>              PM                        "'Bill Lewry'"
>                                        <Bill_Lewry at kcmo.org>
>                                                                         cc
>                                        <pickrel.jan at epamail.epa.gov>,
>                                        "'Vizzier, Michael'"
>                                        <michael.vizzier at sdcounty.ca.gov>,
>                                        <kcrecycling at earthlink.net>,
>                                        "'Matthew Mireles'"
>                                        <mirelesmc at earthlink.net>
>                                                                    Subject
>                                        RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding
>                                        incinerators
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> Wait a minute. That is my business plan. I'm going to get a bright shiny
> new
> F-150 pick up truck, put that Terminator in the back and go from police
> station to police station ( and anywhere else that will pay the lighter
> fee
> like say summer fairs?) and take care of the problem. Course if you're
> downwind and get a little too much pentobarbital.... I'm wondering how
> does
> Prozac flavored barbecue sound?
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> And that is one of the questions I have. Why can they sell these things?
> Aren't there environmental regulations you folks would bring up? Sounds
> like
> they are selling pretty much all over the country and rather under the
> radar
> too. Journalist out there?
> Stevan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volkman, Jennifer [mailto:Jennifer.Volkman at state.mn.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:39 PM
> To: gressitt at uninets.net; Bill Lewry
> Cc: Volkman, Jennifer; pickrel.jan at epamail.epa.gov; Vizzier, Michael;
> kcrecycling at earthlink.net; Matthew Mireles
> Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>
> I'm going to open a dealership instead.  Bill, I'm telling your
> contractor that you can't do what you're doing.  How many do you want?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gressitt at uninets.net [mailto:gressitt at uninets.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:07 PM
> To: Bill Lewry
> Cc: Volkman, Jennifer; pickrel.jan at epamail.epa.gov; Vizzier, Michael;
> kcrecycling at earthlink.net; Matthew Mireles
> Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
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>
> But I'll bet neither of you own stock in www.drugterminator.com   Nor
> have
> your departments "authorized" a perfect gas dispersal device that gives
> some security types the willies... Grin.  Stevan
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>> This is how we perform a witnessed destruction of narcotics in KC.
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>> WE 1/2 fill a 55 gallon drum with an A fuel blend then follow what Jen
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>> has stated below.
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>> Drum then goes out for incineration, in the case of non-controlled - A
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>> fuel.
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>>              "Volkman,
>>              Jennifer"
>>              <Jennifer.Volkman
> To
>>              @state.mn.us>             <kcrecycling at earthlink.net>,
>>              Sent by:                  "Jennifer Volkman"
>>              pharmwaste-bounce         <Jennifer.Volkman at state.mn.us>,
>>              s at lists.dep.state         <Pickrel.Jan at epamail.epa.gov>,
>>              .fl.us                    "Matthew Mireles"
>>                                        <mirelesmc at earthlink.net>
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> cc
>>              01/30/2007 01:48          "Vizzier, Michael"
>>              PM
> <Michael.Vizzier at sdcounty.ca.gov>,
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> pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
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> Subject
>>                                        RE: [Pharmwaste] Question
> regarding
>>                                        incinerators
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>> I don't think legalities related to controlled substances are an issue
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>> when the drugs are considered "destroyed" or non-usable for their
>> intended purpose.  We could get a read from DEA on that.  Some other
>> issues that I can think of are:
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>> 1)HH have to follow directions: combine, mash, mix with vinegar, peel
>> labels;
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>> 2)I posed the idea as mixing all meds together, and adding vinegar (or
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>> whatever anyone else thinks would work--it's cheap and nasty).  In
>> that scenario HH would not necessarily bring in waste in original
>> containers, which we harp on for all other waste streams, so there is
>> an inconsistency there (but it is also an opportunity to re-emphasize
>> that for all other waste streams).  Or we could ask them to add
>> vinegar, etc. to each bottle and not mix them together.  This wouldn't
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>> be much of a problem if you had a couple of bottles, but would get
>> very tedious for a larger cleanout;
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>> 3)Some drugs, like chemo, might need to be kept separate for waste
>> categorization and management reasons, but I think most all can go as
>> lab pack poisons for incineration--someone help me out on this one, I
>> don't pack waste.  If we can go with one labpack category, this could
>> be very simple.  I also don't know of any incompatibility issues.
>> Since it is all consummable there shouldn't be any.
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>> 4) Collection of data on waste meds would be dependent on whether HH
>> will provide info separately since tablets will be destroyed, liquid
>> quantities would be greater and many meds might be mixed together.
>> Labels on my Rx bottles come off real easily, so I think sticking them
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>> on a piece of paper with an estimated count/quantity is simple, but
>> others won't want to bother.
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>> If we can clarify #3, we should be good to go.  #1 is only of mild
>> interest because there will be no way to tell if the nasty mix is or
>> is not a controlled substance and it shouldn't matter if it was.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jnifr
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kcrecycling at earthlink.net [mailto:kcrecycling at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:33 PM
>> To: Jennifer Volkman; Pickrel.Jan at epamail.epa.gov; Matthew Mireles
>> Cc: Vizzier, Michael; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>> Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>>
>>
>> I like your idea Jennifer!  It could simplify the collection
>> process---no need for a deputy officer to take the "controlled
>> stuff"---but how do the legalities play out?
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>>
>> kcrecycling at earthlink.net
>> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
>> Sue Studebaker, Director
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>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Volkman, Jennifer <Jennifer.Volkman at state.mn.us>
>>> To: <Pickrel.Jan at epamail.epa.gov>; Matthew Mireles
>> <mirelesmc at earthlink.net>
>>> Cc: Vizzier, Michael <Michael.Vizzier at sdcounty.ca.gov>;
>> <pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
>>> Date: 1/29/2007 4:36:38 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>>>
>>> OK, another thought on this, maybe it has been thrown out already
>>> somewhere in the past and eliminated for reasons that I can probably
>>> come up with on my own...  :)
>>>
>>> How about if we have patients rip off all labels, mix all their pills
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>>> and liquids together with vinegar and bring/mail them in for
>>> collection. The meds are effectively destroyed/unidentifiable so DEA
>>> won't be excited.  The collectors ship them to a HW incinerator in
>>> lab
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>>> packs labeled as D001/poisons/pesticides, or the most appropriate DOT
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>>> hazard class for the mixture.
>>>
>>> Participants can stick the labels with their name/number blacked out
>>> to a sheet of paper with an estimation on the count/quantity for each
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>>> if the collector would like to share that info with a program like
>>> the
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>>> Unused and Expired Medicines Registry.
>>>
>>> If we make it simple enough for collectors, maybe more will do it.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>> [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of
>>> Pickrel.Jan at epamail.epa.gov
>>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:13 AM
>>> To: Matthew Mireles
>>> Cc: 'Vizzier, Michael'; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>> Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>>>
>>>
>>> "Characteristic" hazardous waste is any wastes that fall into the
>>> following categories (see 40 CFR 261, Subpart C): Ignitability is 40
>>> CFR 261.21; Corrosivity is 40 CFR 261.22; Reactivity is 40 CFR
>>> 261.23;
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>>> Toxicity is 40 CFR 261.24.
>>>
>>> If you are pouring something down a sink that ultimately makes its
>>> way
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>>> to a publicly owned treatment works, please also read the
>>> Pretreatment
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>>> Regulations specific and general prohibitions at 40 CFR 403.5. There
>>> is also a special reporting condition in the Pretreatment regulations
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>>> regarding hazardous wastes in 40 CFR 403.12(p).
>>> ~*^*~*^*~*^*~*^*~*^*~*^*~ Jan Pickrel
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>>>              Matthew Mireles
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>>>              <mirelesmc at earth
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>>>              link.net>
>> To
>>>                                       "'Vizzier, Michael'"
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>>>              01/26/2007 11:56
>> <Michael.Vizzier at sdcounty.ca.gov>
>>>              AM                       , Jan Pickrel/DC/USEPA/US at EPA,
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>>>
>>> pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
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>>>
>>> cc
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>> Subject
>>>                                       RE: [Pharmwaste] Question
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>>>                                       regarding incinerators
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>>> Good point.  I haven't heard of D001 and imagine it would apply to
>>> mostly anesthetic agents (a little more effective than gin).  My
>>> background is biomedical engineering and I still remember the
>>> dreadful
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>>> assignment of pouring unused jars of agents down the sink weekly.
>>>
>>> Matthew Mireles
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>> [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of
>>> Vizzier, Michael
>>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:07 AM
>>> To: Pickrel.Jan at epamail.epa.gov; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>> Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>>>
>>> Another category of RCRA waste that sometimes captures
>>> pharmaceuticals
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>>> is D001.  D001 wastes exhibit the characteristic of ignitibility,
>>> which is defined as liquids with a flash point less than 140 F,
>>> excluding aqueous solutions containing less than 24% alcohol - an
>>> exemption for gin & tonic.
>>>
>>> Michael Vizzier
>>> County of San Diego
>>> Hazardous Materials Division
>>> (858) 495-5672
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>> [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of
>>> Pickrel.Jan at epamail.epa.gov
>>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:11 AM
>>> To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>> Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>>>
>>> See P-listed and U-listed wastes at 40 CFR 261.33.
>>>  - -Jan
>>> ~*^*~*^*~*^*~*^*~*^*~*^*~
>>> Jan Pickrel
>>> Water Permits Division, Industrial Branch
>>> US Environmental Protection Agency
>>> phone:  (202) 564-7904.
>>> fax:  (202) 564-6431.
>>> pickrel.jan at epa.gov
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>              Matthew Mireles
>>>              <mirelesmc at earth
>>>              link.net>
>> To
>>>              Sent by:                 "'Taam, Damon'"
>>>              pharmwaste-bounc         <DTaam at spokanecity.org>,
>>>              es at lists.dep.sta
>> pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.stat
>>>              te.fl.us                 e.fl.us,
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>>> pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>>
>> cc
>>>              01/26/2007 09:30         cecilia.deloach at h2e-online.org,
>>>              AM                       rachel.golden at ncmail.net,
>>>                                       'Elizabeth Smith'
>>>                                       <smithce at flash.net>, 'Mary
>>>                                       Kohrell'
>>>
> <kohrell.mary at co.calumet.wi.us>,
>>>                                       'Racheal Johnson'
>>>                                       <rjohnson1 at sleh.com>,
> "'Hampton,
>>>                                       Anita F'"
>>>                                       <Anita.F.Hampton at nhmccd.edu>
>>>
>> Subject
>>>                                       RE: [Pharmwaste] Question
>>>                                       regarding incinerators
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>>>
>>> Damon,
>>> Thanks for wealth of information you provided on this thread.  Can
>>> you
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>>> point to me specific RCRA references regarding pharmaceutical items
>>> being classified as both or either hazardous waster and/or solid
>>> waste? I have been searching for these references and have not found
>> any
>>> determination on general classification specific to pharmaceuticals.
>> I
>>> conclude that in practice we don't group pharmaceuticals with
>>> "medical
>>
>>> waste", and I'm not sure if there's a uniform acceptance of grouping
>>> them as hazardous waste or solid waste, except perhaps certain items,
>
>>> such as antineoplastics and radioactive therapeutic agents.  Would
>>> RCRA address both prescripts and OTC?  When do drugs become hazardous
>
>>> waste, after expiry date, when no longer used by patients/consumer,
>>> when they appear in trash cans or landfill?
>>>
>>> Our Foundation has been collecting data on returned drugs from
>>> various
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>>> collection events throughout the country.  Any info you can provide,
>>> specifically concerning RCRA references, would be helpful.  So far,
>>> we
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>>> have coded nearly 5,000 items, mainly to get a snapshot of the types
>>> of drugs, quantity (actual pill count) returned, reason why they are
>>> returned.  We also code average wholesale price, environmental hazard
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>>> potential (based on the Swedish database: persistence,
>>> bioaccumulation, and toxicity), as well as potential occupational
>>> hazard exposure. Workers at solid waste treatment facilities probably
>
>>> are exposed to some level.  Both DEA and EPA are not specific to
>>> occupational exposure, and the RCRA cites I discovered mention the
>>> authority and responsibility of OSHA in this matter.
>>>
>>> I agree with you that this problem extremely complex.  Your
>>> contribution to our discussion and the elucidation of just the basic
>>> classification of pharmaceutical and personal care products as
>>> hazardous waste and/or solid waste are both helpful and intriguing.
>>> I'm sure others will have additional comments.
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew C. Mireles, Ph.D., M.P.H.
>>> President and CEO
>>> Community Medical Foundation for Patient Safety
>>> 6800 West Loop South, Suite 190
>>> Bellaire, Texas 77401
>>> Phone and fax: 832-778-7777
>>> www.communityofcompetence.com
>>> cc
>>>
>>>
>>> From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>> [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Taam,
>>> Damon
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:45 PM
>>> To: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us;
>>> pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>> Cc: rachel.golden at ncmail.net; cecilia.deloach at h2e-online.org
>>> Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>>>
>>> HI all;
>>>
>>> RCRA is the federal law that manages waste. It is divided into two
>>> categories: Hazardous waste (Subtitle C) and Solid Waste/garbage
>>> (Subtitle D). Pharmaceuticals fall into both categories, each of
>>> these
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>>> categories have very specific regulations to follow. Managing the
>>> disposal of a hazardous waste is very costly, fortunately most
>>> pharmaceuticals fall into the solid waste classification. If the
>>> wastes comes from a household they are exempt from the hazardous
>>> waste
>>
>>> regulations and therefore are classified as a solid wastes. Some
>>> States like WA and CA also have their own hazardous waste laws that
>>> are more stringent than the federal rules and need to be complied
>>> with. Pharmaceutical wastes are typically divided into three
>>> categories: Controlled substances, Legend drug, and Over the counter
>>> drugs. Controlled substances are regulated by the DEA. The DEA has
>>> very specific rules which need to be complied with, and the penalties
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>>> for non-compliance are steep and serious. Currently, the DEA does not
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>>> allow anyone other than the prescribed patient, a DEA licensed
>>> company(reverse
>>> distributor) and law enforcement entity manage controlled substances.
>
>>> The EPA is also serious about how and who manages hazardous waste.
>>> The problem is that DEA requires controlled substances to be
>>> destroyed and made unusable (to avoid reuse and abuse of the drug)
>>> via an approved process. Typically, that means incineration in an
>>> approved facility. There are not many facilities that are DEA & EPA
>>> approved for the disposal of controlled substances and hazardous
>>> waste. Most of the DEA approved facilities are like Spokane Waste to
>>> Energy Facility. Our facility is a clean modern Waste to Energy
>>> facility and should not be confused with incinerators of the past.
>>> They are built with sophisticated combustion and air pollution
>>> controls systems. Both
>> dioxin
>>> and mercury are controlled and regulated to levels that are minimal
>> and
>>> not a health risk. These facilities are built to destroy organic
>>> waste of which 95% of the pharmaceuticals are. Pharmaceuticals in WA
>>> are not regulated as a Dangerous Waste(State Hazardous) as long as
>>> they are disposed of in facilities such as Spokane's. For more
>>> information see our website: www.solidwaste.org Clearly
>>> pharmaceuticals need to destroyed and not discharged into our rivers,
>
>>> lakes and our oceans. Landfills do not destroy the products, they
>>> store them for our future generations to manage. Other technologies
>>> do exist but are
>> developmental
>>> and have yet to commercially prove themselves as effective, reliable
>> and
>>> cost effective. Pharmaceuticals, like garbage isn't homogeneous and
>> can
>>> vary greatly on it's makeup and characteristics, therefore any new
>>> technology will need to address many types of pharmaceuticals.
>>>
>>> Medical waste is an undefined term, but specifically is seen as waste
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>>> from a medical facility. That in it's self is a wide range of wastes:
>
>>> sharps, paper, body parts, infectious waste, drugs, plastic trays,
>>> etc. Some view it as just infectious waste. Needless to say it is a
>>> label, and needs to be managed properly and not create a potential
>>> problem. Medical waste incinerators of the past do not exist anymore
>>> due to new requirements. They have either been modified with new
>>> technology or just shut down, mostly the later. Compliance with the
>>> new regulation are extensive and therefore are expensive. On the plus
>
>>> side, any existing combustion facilities are very clean, do a much
>>> better job and have less an impact on our environment.
>>>
>>> Hazardous waste incinerators (vs Solid Waste combustors) burn at much
>
>>> higher temperatures but have similar air pollution control devices
>>> and
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>>> are licensed and dedicated to destroying hazardous waste. Typically
>>> hazardous waste incinerators utilize a lot of supplemental fuels to
>>> maintain the high temperature destruction environment 4000F+, whereas
>
>>> a municipal Waste to Energy facility will operate in the 2500F range
>>> with supplemental fuel for startup and shutdown only. There are trade
>
>>> offs, higher temperatures guarantee 100% destruction of all
>>> organics(necessary for hazardous waste) but also create an
>>> environment
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>>> that generates large quantities of NOX emissions. I hope this helps
>>> you understand the complexity of the problem and the miriad of
>>> regulations that need to be complied with.
>>>
>>>
>>> Damon M.K. Taam
>>> Spokane Regional Solid Waste System
>>> 808 Spokane Falls Blvd.
>>> Spokane, WA 99201
>>>
>>> (509) 625-6580 Office
>>> (509) 625-6537 Fax
>>>
>>>       -----Original Message-----
>>>       From:  [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On
>> Behalf
>>>       Of gressitt
>>>       Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:25 PM
>>>       To: 'Cecilia DeLoach'; 'Bill Lewry'; 'Volkman, Jennifer'
>>>       Cc: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us;
>>>       pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us; 'rachel golden'
>>>       Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>>>       I would be interested in the same.
>>>       Stevan Gressitt, M.D.
>>>       207-441-0291
>>>       www.mainebenzo.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>>       [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of
>>>       Cecilia DeLoach
>>>       Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:06 PM
>>>       To: 'Bill Lewry'; 'Volkman, Jennifer'
>>>       Cc: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us;
>>>       pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us; 'rachel golden'
>>>       Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>>>
>>>       Hi all-
>>>
>>>       I'm wondering if any of you are familiar with other acceptable
>>>       treatment technologies for the disposal of non-RCRA
>> pharmaceutical
>>>       waste. Many of you are likely familiar with our organization-
>>>       Hospitals for a Healthy Environment (H2E). And we are concerned
>>>       about a placing a new reliance on medical or municipal waste
>>>       incinerators at a time when we are working hard to decrease the
>>>       necessity of burning any hospital generated waste (due to
>> concerns
>>>       around dioxin generation and mercury emissions in particular).
>>>
>>>       Have there been any discussions on this list about other
>> approved
>>>       technologies for the destruction of non-RCRA pharm waste? Is
>>>       anyone aware of any testing of autoclaves, alkaline hydrolysis,
>>>       microwaves or other "treatment technologies" for pharm waste?
>>>
>>>       I'd be very interested in hearing from you if so.
>>>
>>>       Many thanks,
>>>       Cecilia
>>>
>>>       Cecilia DeLoach
>>>       H2E State Partnership Program Coordinator
>>>       1901 N. Moore Street, Suite 509
>>>       Arlington, VA 22209
>>>       Ph: 800-727-4179
>>>       E-mail: cecilia.deloach at h2e-online.org
>>>       www.h2e-online.org
>>>
>>>             -----Original Message-----
>>>             From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>>             [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On
>> Behalf
>>>             Of Bill Lewry
>>>             Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:23 AM
>>>             To: Volkman, Jennifer
>>>             Cc: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us;
>>>             pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us; rachel golden
>>>             Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Question regarding incinerators
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             Rachel:
>>>
>>>             Jennifer is absolutely correct here - one additional
>> caveat
>>>             - if the medical waste is a controlled substance it must
>> go
>>>             to a DEA approved incinerator.
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>>>             Depending on the type of incinerator, how it is fed and
>> the
>>>             emission control system, a medical or infectious waste
>>>             incinerator might do as good a job destroying pharms as a
>>>             haz waste incinerator.  Regardless, any pharm waste that
>> is
>>>             categorized as a RCRA haz waste must go to a RCRA
>> permitted
>>>             haz waste incinerator.  If a pharm is not a HW it could
> go
>>>             to a medical/infectious waste incinerator if your state
>>>             permits that.  You should check in with your state or
>> local
>>>             HW inspectors.
>>>
>>>             ________________________________
>>>
>>>             From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us on behalf
>> of
>>>             rachel golden
>>>             Sent: Wed 1/17/2007 2:14 PM
>>>             To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
>>>             Subject: [Pharmwaste] Question regharding incinerators
>>>
>>>
>>>             I have a question regarding the incineration of unused
>>>             pharmaceuticals.  I am relatively new to the list, so
>>>             forgive me if this has been discussed before.  I believe
>>>             that unused drugs in North Carolina sent through a
> reverse
>>>             distributor end up being incinerated at a medical waste
>>>             facility.  The point was recently made that
>> pharmaceuticals
>>>             are considered hazardous waste, not medical waste, and
>> that
>>>             the incineration process safe for medical waste is not
>>>             necessarily safe for drugs.  Does anybody have any
>>>             information on this subject from anywhere in the U.S.?
>>>             Specifically, what are the differences between
>> incinerators
>>>             built to handle medical waste versus hazardous waste?
> Are
>>>             drugs considered to be medical waste or hazardous waste?
>>>             I appreciate the help!
>>>             Rachel
>>>
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>>>             Adult Environmental Education Program Manager
>>>             Office of Environmental Education
>>>             NC Department of Environment and Natural Resources
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