[Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 36, Issue 11

Tue Oct 14 15:34:46 EDT 2008

How often do you see Physostigmine Salicylate (P188)?  Are you saying it is also a D002 as it has a low pH?

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   1. RE: Pharmaceutical Corrosives (Jeff Hollar)
   2. FW: Sample prescription drugs (Tenace, Laurie)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:57:29 -0500
From: "Jeff Hollar" <jhollar at pwaste.com>
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmaceutical Corrosives
To: "'Sue Dayton'" <sdayton at swcp.com>,
<pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
Cc: 'Carolyn Cole' <comet2000 at nc.rr.com>
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Sue,

In our Waste-ID software, we classify pharmaceutical waste as a hazardous
corrosive (D002, yes D002) if it has a pH of less than or equal to 2 or
greater than or equal to

12.5 (40 CFR Part 261.22).  An example of an acutely hazardous liquid
pharmaceutical waste would be Physostigmine Salicylate (P188), as it is a
P-Listed waste.  P-listed wastes are

commercial chemical products which are classified as acutely hazardous under
RCRA.

Jeff Hollar

President

PharmWaste Technologies, Inc.

4164 NW Urbandale Dr., Suite A

Urbandale, IA 50322

(P) 515-276-5302 Ext. 316

(F) 480-393-5564

(E) Jhollar at Pwaste.com 

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From: Sue Dayton [mailto:sdayton at swcp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:10 AM
To: 'Jeff Hollar'; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us 
Cc: 'Carolyn Cole'
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmaceutical Corrosives

Hi Jeff:

I have a question for you from a friend - do you know what is the ph level
(or other factor) is for classifying such liquids and solutions as acutely
hazardous vs. hazardous vs non-hazardous?

Thank you!

Sue Dayton

Blue Ridge Environmental Defense League

North Carolina Healthy Communities Program

PO BOX 44

Saxapahaw, NC 27340

(336) 525-2003

sdayton at swcp.com 

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From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us 
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Jeff Hollar
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:06 AM
To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us 
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Pharmaceutical Corrosives

I just posted this on the Practice Greenhealth listserve, but thought it
would be beneficial to many of the members of this Pharmwaste listserve as
well.  

Many of our hospital pharmacy customers are surprised to find out that their
pharmaceutical inventory contains potentially corrosive waste other than a
few compounding chemicals.  One good example of this is Sporanox Solution by
JOM.  A review of the package insert indicates a target pH of 2.   We have
performed internal tests and found the mode average pH to be closer to 1.  A
liquid waste with a pH of 1 is considered corrosive waste by the EPA and
carries an EPA waste code of D003.  It is also considered corrosive when
shipping by the DOT and carries a DOT shipping number of 8.

We have found the pharmaceutical corrosive waste stream to be overlooked in
many of the pharmaceutical inventories that we've analyzed.  For those
pharmacies performing their own waste identification analysis, I would
encourage them to closely review the pH's of the liquids and solutions in
their inventory.  

Jeff Hollar

President

PharmWaste Technologies, Inc.

Urbandale, IA 50322

Email: jhollar at pwaste.com 

Website: www.pwaste.com 

515-276-5302

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:52:17 -0400
From: "Tenace, Laurie" <Laurie.Tenace at dep.state.fl.us>
Subject: [Pharmwaste] FW: Sample prescription drugs
To: <pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
Cc: ayoungblut at cvmspc.com 
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Can anyone help this person?

This question comes up a lot for me. A Florida Statute says, "All out-of-date
drug samples must be returned to the manufacturer or distributor of that drug
sample." (Ch. 499.028(9), F.S.) However every drug rep I've asked (just while
waiting to see doctors at various times) has never heard this and insists
that they do not take back samples. 

Thanks!

Laurie

Laurie J. Tenace
Environmental Specialist
Florida Department of Environmental Protection
2600 Blair Stone Road, MS 4555
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2400
PH: (850) 245-8759
FAX: (850) 245-8811
Laurie.Tenace at dep.state.fl.us 

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From: Angie Youngblut [mailto:AYoungblut at cvmspc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:39 PM
To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us 
Subject: FW: Sample prescription drugs

I have been trying to get one clear answer- and haven't had much success. I
have tried EPA, DNR, Iowa Board of Pharmacy, local landfill and others. I
have expired sample prescription drugs to dispose of and I don't want to
break any regulations, however I have been told I am a "waste generating
facility" and therefore have different rules. It has been recommended to me
to mix them with undesirable substances and put in regular trash and that
they are not considered hazardous.

I do not have the option of giving them to a charitable organization because
they will only take them( in the Iowa Drug Repository program) with a year
left on the expiration and our offices keep them until they expire. 

Is there any clear guideline federally or in Iowa that I have missed? 

Angie Youngblut RN, BS 
Clinical Practice Manager 
Cedar Valley Medical Specialists, P.C. 
4150 Kimball Avenue 
Waterloo, Iowa 50701 
Phone 319-235-5390 
Fax 319-287-9249 
ayoungblut at cvmspc.com 

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