[Pharmwaste] FW: [Sludge] FW: to flush or not to flush.........

[HACKEL, RICHARD]

The last line in your response says a lot.  If we were not so concerned
with illegal use of drugs, we could better manage their disposal and
other issues.  In other words, manage drug use [medical & recreational]
by defining legal responsible use not prohibition.  Prohibition did work
before, it increased crime and violence.  Now alcohol is managed by
regulating responsible behavior not rights to possess.   We need a new
national philosophy toward drug management that encompasses all aspects,
possession, responsible use, disposal, testing & market approval, and
taxing.  Taxation on recreational drugs [and fines for irresponsible
use, i.e. driving under the influence] could go a long way to paying for
public healthcare.


          Rich Hackel, OSC 
Emergency Response Section, NRO
Cell 574 / 274-9103
574 / 245--4876   fx 245--4877 
rhackel at idem.in.gov
          

-----Original Message-----
From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Sue
Dayton
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:01 AM
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Subject: [Pharmwaste] FW: [Sludge] FW: to flush or not to flush.........

-----Original Message-----
From: sludge-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:sludge-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Terri Buckner
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:40 AM
To: Sludge
Subject: Re: [Sludge] FW: to flush or not to flush.........

The North Carolina Association of Pharmacists will not allow local 
pharmacies to take back prescribed drugs. Their logic is that it puts 
the pharmacy staff at risk because they are then responsible in terms of

chain of custody. The Drug Enforcement Agency, Atlanta Division, will 
not authorize a take back program through local municipalities hazard 
waste programs for the same reasons. Their desire to control substances 
is taking precedence over safe disposal.

Terri

Childers wrote:
> Best "sort-of" solution would be a return system/network to
pharmacies.
> That's assuming people not to lazy or uncaring to just flush. You'd
have
to
> figure out who's going to pay for labor/sorting/storage/shipping of
returned
> drugs. Maybe best would be municipal pick-up at pharmacies provided
tax
> payers willing to pay for such a system. Weak part is everyone wants
> solutions that don't cost them anything.
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sludge-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:sludge-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Sue Dayton
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:21 AM
> To: 'Sludge'
> Subject: [Sludge] FW: to flush or not to flush.........
>
> Comment from NY re: flushing pharms.....
>
> Sue Dayton
> Blue Ridge Environmental Defense League
> North Carolina Healthy Communities Program
> PO BOX 44
> Saxapahaw, NC 27340
> (336) 525-2003
> sdayton at swcp.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Scott
Stoner
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:07 AM
> To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> Subject: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 39,Issue 7 - do not
flush
> message
>
> In New York, we recommend that NO unused drugs be flushed.  Please see
our
> website, www.dontflushyourdrugs.net - Scott Stoner, Chair,
Pharmaceuticals
> Work Group, New York State Department of Environmental Conservation. 
>
>
> Scott J. Stoner, M.S.
> Chief, Standards and Analytical Support Section
> Bureau of Water Assessment and Management
> Division of Water
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 625 Broadway
> Albany, NY  12233-3502
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> phone: 518-402-8193
> fax 518-402-9029
> email: sxstoner at gw.dec.state.ny.us
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-- 
Terri Buckner
Senior Instructional Designer
Enterprise Resource Planning Project
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Chapel Hill NC 27599-3420
Phone:  919-962-5054; Fax:    919-962-0418
tbuckner at unc.edu

"Good teaching is more a giving of right questions than a giving of
right
answers." -- Josef Albers (1888-1976), artist and educator

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