[Pharmwaste] Yet another pill disposal gimmick?

[Lotzer Donna M]

From: Lotzer Donna M [mailto:DLotzer at uwhealth.org]
Spotted this product this morning – will see if company will offer up any detailed information…I especially love the video from “grandma of 12” which refers to meds as “nuclear waste”. I am thinking they want people to accumulate meds in the container, then when filled to the bottom line, water is added to the top line, and the stuff congeals. Donna
http://pillterminator.com/index.html

From: Lotzer Donna M
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:19 AM
To: 'info at pillterminator.com'; Lotzer Donna M
Subject: Q/A on your product

Dear Pill Terminator: I was browsing new products listings in a pharmacy journal and came across this product…fascinating I must admit. Read what I could find on the website but left with many questions:
Donna Lotzer, Senior Clinical Pharmacist
Poison Education Coordinator
University of WI Hospital & Clinics Poison Prevention Center
600 Highland Avenue, MC # 9475, Madison, WI 53792
dlotzer at uwhealth.org<mailto:dlotzer at uwhealth.org>     Phone: 608-265-8160
Please encourage others to save 800-222-1222 in both cell and home phones.
This number will connect callers anywhere in the U.S. to a poison center.
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1)      What is actually in the bottle which “inactivates” meds? “MSDS” on website tells nothing at all… ☹
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2)      Comment in one of the studies you post mentions bad smell – cause by what?
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3)      What is capacity for neutralization/inactivation for this product?


4)      What would happen if a person accidently got into the bottle before use, or for that matter, after it congeals? Include oral/skin/eye exposure management guidelines.



5)      In your pictures of the pink mess after it sits I can see intact tablet shapes – can I assume these would be considered “recoverable”, especially with an ingredient other than aspirin, like an extended release opioid?

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6)      Is the cost on Amazon expected to be the price at retail locations? Kind of expensive when shipping and taxes etc. are added…
http://www.amazon.com/Pill-Terminator-Safe-Disposal-Container/dp/B00JDVULJC/ref=sr_1_1_m?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1416236909&sr=1-1&keywords=pill+terminator


7)      Can you elaborate on this:

Observations

The guidelines for proper disposal of unused medicines from both the FDA and EPA found on the following links:

http://water.epa.gov/scitech/swguidance/ppcp/upload/ppcpflyer.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/consumerupdates/ucm101653.htm

To summarize the guidelines, the following criteria need to be met for proper disposal of unused medicine:

1. The medicine must be removed from its original container and mixed with an undesirable substance.



2. The mixture must be placed in a sealable container that does not leak so that it can be placed in the trash.



Based on our testing and analysis, it is the opinion of BVCPS that the Pill Terminator exceeds the FDA and EPA guidelines for proper disposal of unused medicines due to the following observations:

 The medicine was placed in the container with particles that emits an undesirable odor.

 The container is made of high density polyethylene which has a child resistant cap.

 The medicine dissolved and became part of a gel / mud like substance with a foul smell.







BVCPS Buffalo Contact Information for this Report:


Administrative Questions


Jennifer Yoder


Phone: 716-505-3452


jennifer.yoder at us.bureauveritas.com<mailto:jennifer.yoder at us.bureauveritas.com>


Technical Questions:


Robert Cimini


Phone: 716-505-3656


robert.cimini at us.bureauveritas.com<mailto:robert.cimini at us.bureauveritas.com>


2360 Lakewood Rd
Suite 3-420
Toms River, NJ 08755

From Toms River, no less. Read the book “Toms River” Here is a review:
http://www.randomhouse.com/book/47702/toms-river-by-dan-fagin

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