FW: [Pharmwaste] RE: Treatment plant may reduce drugs in creek - Canada

[Tenace, Laurie]

Please note that this email did not originate with me.
Laurie

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:53 AM
To: Hauser, Deborah
Cc: Shield, Margaret; Tenace, Laurie; 'pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us'
Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] RE: Treatment plant may reduce drugs in creek - Canada

TO: all

Are there conjugated,sub-compound residuals from the new "process"?
If so , do you know what they will be and how will they be "disposed of"?
The only "true", safe disposition of these "nano-materials" present in today's toxic sewage is 100% "mineralization" down to their base components which are carbon dioxide and water vapor. Muscle relaxers, estrogen and antbiotics are just three of the 20 million + exotic materials now present in our sewage and a growing number of our drinking water systems. Hundreds of "Cytotoxins" and their metabolites (chemo-theraputic medications) are now also in our sewage. "Acrolein" is a very highly toxic metabolite which is decimating/ sterilizing many soil- based septic leach fields. And the list goes on for hundreds of pages.

Over the last 30 years we have been discovering, developing and implementing a totally natural, effective and self-sustaining process that we describe as a "Closed Loop" "Super Aerobic Constructed Woodland".
Simply stated: The "Constructed Woodland" terminates the production and discharge of all (non-industrial) sewage. This solves all of those problems. We now have several hundred of these systems in operation.

And there is no "Sludge" OR liquid discharge/ removal.

I am sure that you must have many questions. One of the many "key"
components to the "Constructed Woodland" is the culture of several ubiquitous strains of ancient mycelia and their "arsenals" of unique and aggressive enzymes.

We have many photos, documents, etc.
Please contact me if you are interested

Al White
Cell# (US) 607-738-2034



AND....do we know anything yet about how the PPCPs break down (or don't
> break down) in biosludge?  Can they be absorbed by plants?
>
> From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Shield, 
> Margaret
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:12 PM
> To: 'Tenace, Laurie'; 'pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us'
> Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: Treatment plant may reduce drugs in creek - 
> Canada
>
> I would appreciate seeing information on where the portion of the 
> PPCPs that are removed from the wastewater end up, and unfortunately 
> reports like this tend not to describe that.  Some chemical 
> degradation or inactivation may occur, but typically the still active 
> PPCP chemicals end up in the biosludge.  It would be interesting to 
> know how this WWTP handles or utilizes that biosludge.
>
> Margaret Shield PhD, Policy Liaison
> Local Hazardous Waste Management Program in King County
> (desk) 206-477-6238
> Local Governments for Health and the Environment - 
> www.lhwmp.org<http://www.lhwmp.org/>
>
>
> From:
> pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us<mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lis
> ts.dep.state.fl.us> [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] 
> On Behalf Of Tenace, Laurie
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:30 AM
> To: 'pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us'
> Subject: [Pharmwaste] Treatment plant may reduce drugs in creek - 
> Canada
>
> http://www.leaderpost.com/technology/Treatment+plant+reduce+drugs+cree
> k/10290357/story.html
>
>
> Regina's new waste water treatment plant will help reduce the level of 
> pharmaceuticals and estrogen in Wascana Creek, which have potentially 
> dangerous effects on fish populations.
>
> Studies show the plant's planned biological nutrient removal system 
> could improve the reduction of pharmaceuticals and personal care 
> products by 80 to 95 per cent, said Water Security Agency (WSA) spokesman Patrick Boyle.
> These studies also indicate the system could improve estrogen removal 
> by
> 95 per cent, he said.
>
> Boyle could not comment on the current effect of estrogen or 
> pharmaceuticals on the Wascana Creek ecosystem.
>
> The concentration of these compounds in Wascana Creek has been on the 
> City of Regina's radar, said Kelly Scherr, director of major projects. 
> The city commissioned a study to ascertain the best way to tackle 
> these compounds before proceeding with the new plant, she said.
>
> Discussion over estrogen in waterways was ignited Monday with the 
> publication of a new study into the effects of this compound on 
> freshwater fish. The study, published in Philosophical Transactions of 
> the Royal Society B, found estrogen can lead to intersex fish 
> transformation, which in turn impedes reproduction and decimates 
> populations. Other organisms along the food chain are affected, too.
>
> The study mentioned Wascana Creek as one location where feminized male 
> fish are present due to waste water.
>
> Boyle said Regina's waste water treatment plant currently removes 40 
> per cent of pharmaceuticals, including estrogen, from the water.
>
> "Our sewage treatment plants are not designed to remove these kinds of 
> residues," said Marley Waiser, a retired research scientist with 
> Environment Canada, who conducted a study into the presence of 
> pharmaceuticals in Wascana Creek.
>
> She found there are an abundance of them - more than 20 different 
> types were found at one test time - and they travel far downstream of 
> Regina, sometimes up to 105 kilometres away.
>
> These pharmaceuticals come from urine and feces, as humans only absorb 
> about 20 per cent of the drugs they ingest, Waiser explained.
>
> While concentrations of compounds in Wascana Creek were low, Waiser 
> said it's the chronic exposure of pharmaceuticals and other 
> contaminants to the water system that is of concern. Since the system 
> is fed by effluent, she said it is naturally at risk from pollution 
> and requires more research, especially now that a new waste water 
> treatment plant is being constructed.
>
> "If you're putting a new sewage treatment plant in, you want to make 
> sure it's doing what it's supposed to do," Waiser said.
>
> The WSA is in its first year of a three-study to monitor 
> "environmental substances of concern," like pharmaceuticals, present 
> in Wascana Creek, said Boyle. The study's timeline will allow a 
> comparison between water quality before and after the new plant.
>
> Scherr said the city will be looking to the results of the WSA study 
> and best practices to guide its approach to this issue going forward.
>
> The plant is set to be completed by December 2016.
> nlypny at leaderpost.com<mailto:nlypny at leaderpost.com> 
> twitter.com/wordpuddle
>
>
> Laurie Tenace
> Environmental Specialist
> Waste Reduction Section
> Florida Department of Environmental Protection
> 2600 Blair Stone Road, MS 4555
> Tallahassee, FL 32399-2400
> 850.245.8759
> Laurie.Tenace at dep.state.fl.us<mailto:Laurie.Tenace at dep.state.fl.us>
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