[Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1

Wed Jan 7 10:22:40 EST 2015

Hi all

We will be filing legislation in Rhode Island today to require the cost of collecting the human waste from the 27 bad actor chemotherapy treatments as part of the cost of the treatment. Average cancer treatment is almost $200,000 per year and the cost to collect transport and destroy the contaminated urine and feces is about 2 to 3 % of that. I have a list of the problem drugs attached with excretion times and amounts.

I will be happy to share the language in the legislation to file in other states.

Thank you for your help

Jim

From: Catherine Zimmer [mailto:zenllc at usfamily.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 10:09 AM
To: 'Gilliam, Allen'; 'jmullowney'; 'Bill Speenburgh'; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1

Hi Allen and all,

Yes, if you remember some years back, Ann Heil from I think its LA’s wastewater district compiled a list of metabolism vs. pass through of a number of common rx.  And a EPA, Region 3 scientist says, I paraphrase here, “the drug companies overdose us”.  Pharmaceutical metabolism is less than an exact science, and Pharma is apparently not too interested in making it more so.  Now, maybe with Almeda Co.’s take back ordinance, or maybe if EPA demanded Pharma clean up the nation’s waters—that would be incentive to develop more site specific and directed drugs.  

Following up on Jim’s comments—I have done exactly that with my physician. When she prescribes a drug—for which there is no rx-free alternative treatment, we’ll get out the package insert to identify the amount that passes through.  A good education for both you and your MD.  

Very truly yours,

Catherine Zimmer, MS, BSMT

Zimmer Environmental Improvement, LLC

St. Paul, MN 

Ph:  651.645.7509

zenllc at usfamily.net

From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Gilliam, Allen
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jmullowney; Bill Speenburgh; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1

So the general public would not realize they’re paying for perhaps 25% of the (almost prohibitively) expensive drug they’ve been prescribed; the rest being wasted to the environment?  Sumpthin just doesn’t pass the smell test on this scenario.

Allen g

From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of jmullowney
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 5:38 AM
To: Bill Speenburgh; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1

Bill

You do not need to have your urine tested you can just read the drug insert,that pice  of paper that comes with your prescription with all the fine print. It will tell you how much passes in the urine and feces and how quickly. This is all information from the FDA.

A patient on a chemotherapy drug called cyclophosphamide will urinate 1000 ppm in 24 hours, enough to kill a child nevermind the fact it is a US Epa hazardous waste and a known carcinogen as well as known to cause birtdefects. 

Not all drugs are hazardous to  humans in small quantities but the ones that are need to be controlled such as cytotoxic chemotherapy drugs.

Pee in a cup for two days after treatment if you are on chemo as recommended by the World Health Organization. Check out www.cytotoxicsafety.org  

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From: Bill Speenburgh <wcermail at gmail.com> 

Date:01/06/2015 8:15 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us 

Cc: 

Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1 

As a  person with Type II diabetes, I am prescribed by the VA with 2 x 1000
mg tablets of Metformin per day.  Maybe I will get my urine tested to see
what passes thru? 

William G. Speenburgh
World Class Environmental Resources, LLC

(973) 770-2275 (Phone)
(973) 219-5720 (cell)

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