[Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 125, Issue 23

Lawernce Kenemore Jr. ldkjr100 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 1 13:40:55 EDT 2016 

Scott Cassels Questions and the pouches
You are all right as I see so far:
1.  It should not be landfilled
2.  It does not hold enough for a person to destroy what they have
3.  Look at their intent (AS USUAL MAKE IT APPEAR THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING)
If you go to statmedicamentdisposal.com you will find a chart of costs
comparison of this product
You will also find that we burn our product to generate electricty which
qualifies for Carbon Credits (We then share with the address/location at
25/75%)
Our product holds 60 pills and the contents are patented.
We are currently working with PhRMA for a test city

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:24 PM, <pharmwaste-request at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
wrote:

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> From: Jim Mullowney <jmullowney at pharma-cycle.com>
> To: "Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA)" <jennifer.volkman at state.mn.us>,
> "Pharmwaste, the list" <pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:17:41 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Scott Cassel's question
> Thanks Jennifer.
>
> Agreed.
>
> Jim Mullowney
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA)" <jennifer.volkman at state.mn.us>
> Date: 6/30/16 1:10 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: "Pharmwaste, the list" <pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
> Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Scott Cassel's question
>
> I agree with what Barbara stated, for MN.
> Another consideration is that the pouches don't have enough capacity for
> the average person to use to get rid of what has accumulated over the
> years. These pouches are available for $5-7 currently at pharmacies. It is
> cost prohibitive for people to use the pouches unless they've already
> cleaned out and need them occasionally. So, the free part is nice and
> dividing it by 3 still covers a lot of people. What if they can't fit them
> all in? Then do they go with a mix and dispose that doesn't bind the
> pharms? Then you have the same situation we see with pharms showing up in
> leachate. I haven't seen leach tests on the pouches to back up claims, but
> maybe someone has them.
>
> I'm not strongly opposed to this option, but just like every other, it has
> its downside.
>
> Cytotoxic drugs are a whole other level of concern and should be dealt
> with outside of the collection and disposal system used for all other
> pharms.
>
> Medical waste incinerators are a whole other animal compared to today's
> Waste to Energy facilities. From permitting, to what can be put in them.
> They are not/should not be used for pharms, they are for biohazardous waste.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pharmwaste [pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] on behalf
> of Bickford, Barbara J - DNR (Barb) [Barbara.Bickford at wisconsin.gov]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:20 AM
> *To:* Pharmwaste, the list
> *Subject:* [Pharmwaste] Scott Cassel's question
>
> Scott Cassel asked:  Can any government officials on this list verify
> that their agencies approve of these pouches being landfilled?
>
>
>
> The answer depends on who is managing the waste:  a household, a
> collection program or a non-household.
>
>
>
> ·         If a household disposed of the drug-in-a-pouch at home, it
> could be landfilled under current regulations. Although this is not the
> best option environmentally, Wisconsin allows landfilling as a last resort.
>
> ·         If the drug-in-a-pouch ends up at a household medication
> collection, Wisconsin policy is that collected pharmaceutical waste must be
> destroyed by incineration. Other states might have different policies.
>
> ·         If a non-household, waste management regulations would apply.
> Under EPA’s RCRA Subtitle C regulations (or state regulations based on
> them), a non-household would have to evaluate whether or not the “mixture”
> of drug + pouch materials is a hazardous waste and manage it accordingly.
> If it were a hazardous waste, it could not be put in a landfill due to the
> Subtitle C ban on landfilling hazardous waste. Wisconsin recommends that
> all non-household pharmaceutical waste be incinerated, whether hazardous or
> not.
>
>
>
>
>
> *--Barb  *
>
> *--------------------------------------------------------------*
>
> *We are committed to service excellence.*
>
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> did.
>
>
>
> Barb Bickford
> Medical Waste Coordinator and Hydrogeologist
>
> Waste and Materials Mgt/Environmental Management Division
> Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources
> 101 S. Webster St., PO Box 7921, Madison, WI 53707-7921
> Phone: 608-267-3548
> Fax: 608-267-2768
> barbara.bickford at wisconsin.gov
>
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>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "DeBiasi, Deborah (DEQ)" <Deborah.DeBiasi at deq.virginia.gov>
> To: "Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA)" <jennifer.volkman at state.mn.us>,
> "Pharmwaste, the list" <pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:24:17 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Scott Cassel's question
>
>             I would think that after 11 national take back events, most
> people would have gotten rid of a lot of their unused meds.  These free
> pouches are a convenience, and if the contents can render drugs inactive,
> they will lessen the environmental risk posed by disposal.   If someone
> can’t fit all of their medicationsl in one of the free pouches, they can
> try to get another one.  Or, they could buy one one of the mailers, utilize
> one of the drug disposal methods involving kitty litter or coffee grounds,
> or just toss them in the trash (certainly not recommended but one of their
> options).
>
>
>
> Deborah DeBiasi
>
> 804-698-4028
>
> Deborah.DeBiasi at deq.virginia.gov
>
>
>
> *From:* Pharmwaste [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] *On
> Behalf Of *Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA)
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 1:11 PM
> *To:* Pharmwaste, the list
> *Subject:* Re: [Pharmwaste] Scott Cassel's question
>
>
>
> I agree with what Barbara stated, for MN.
>
> Another consideration is that the pouches don't have enough capacity for
> the average person to use to get rid of what has accumulated over the
> years. These pouches are available for $5-7 currently at pharmacies. It is
> cost prohibitive for people to use the pouches unless they've already
> cleaned out and need them occasionally. So, the free part is nice and
> dividing it by 3 still covers a lot of people. What if they can't fit them
> all in? Then do they go with a mix and dispose that doesn't bind the
> pharms? Then you have the same situation we see with pharms showing up in
> leachate. I haven't seen leach tests on the pouches to back up claims, but
> maybe someone has them.
>
>
>
> I'm not strongly opposed to this option, but just like every other, it has
> its downside.
>
>
>
> Cytotoxic drugs are a whole other level of concern and should be dealt
> with outside of the collection and disposal system used for all other
> pharms.
>
>
>
> Medical waste incinerators are a whole other animal compared to today's
> Waste to Energy facilities. From permitting, to what can be put in them.
> They are not/should not be used for pharms, they are for biohazardous waste.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Pharmwaste [pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] on behalf
> of Bickford, Barbara J - DNR (Barb) [Barbara.Bickford at wisconsin.gov]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:20 AM
> *To:* Pharmwaste, the list
> *Subject:* [Pharmwaste] Scott Cassel's question
>
> Scott Cassel asked:  Can any government officials on this list verify
> that their agencies approve of these pouches being landfilled?
>
>
>
> The answer depends on who is managing the waste:  a household, a
> collection program or a non-household.
>
>
>
> ·         If a household disposed of the drug-in-a-pouch at home, it
> could be landfilled under current regulations. Although this is not the
> best option environmentally, Wisconsin allows landfilling as a last resort.
>
> ·         If the drug-in-a-pouch ends up at a household medication
> collection, Wisconsin policy is that collected pharmaceutical waste must be
> destroyed by incineration. Other states might have different policies.
>
> ·         If a non-household, waste management regulations would apply.
> Under EPA’s RCRA Subtitle C regulations (or state regulations based on
> them), a non-household would have to evaluate whether or not the “mixture”
> of drug + pouch materials is a hazardous waste and manage it accordingly.
> If it were a hazardous waste, it could not be put in a landfill due to the
> Subtitle C ban on landfilling hazardous waste. Wisconsin recommends that
> all non-household pharmaceutical waste be incinerated, whether hazardous or
> not.
>
>
>
>
>
> *--Barb  *
>
> *--------------------------------------------------------------*
>
> *We are committed to service excellence.*
>
> Visit our survey at http://dnr.wi.gov/customersurvey to evaluate how I
> did.
>
>
>
> Barb Bickford
> Medical Waste Coordinator and Hydrogeologist
>
> Waste and Materials Mgt/Environmental Management Division
> Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources
> 101 S. Webster St., PO Box 7921, Madison, WI 53707-7921
> Phone: 608-267-3548
> Fax: 608-267-2768
> barbara.bickford at wisconsin.gov
>
> <http://dnr.wi.gov/> dnr.wi.gov
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