[Pharmwaste] Support for Pharmwaste Listserv Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 142, Issue 2

Meryl Klein merylklein at earthlink.net
Fri Nov 3 13:17:15 EDT 2017


Hi All,

I would like to voice my support for keeping the Pharmwaste Listserv as it is.  I feel that it continues to provides a basic, solid, and valuable national repository for information and communications among professionals, and interested citizens such as myself.  I would prefer to see it continue ad-free as I feel ads might add bias and detract from the basic purpose of having information to share (this is not to say that folks can't let others know what they are using and what is working or not working).  

THANK YOU to FDEP for keeping this going all these years.  I hope that it continues for many, many more as we continue to work hard to educate ourselves and others, and cleanup and preserve our environment.

Warm Regards,

Meryl Klein
Former Outreach and Education Coordinator for Earth 911

  
On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:10 AM, pharmwaste-request at lists.dep.state.fl.us wrote:

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>   1. Re: FW:  Pharmwaste Listserv concerns (Jim Mullowney)
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> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 11:10:24 -0400
> From: "Jim Mullowney" <jmullowney at pharma-cycle.com>
> To: "'Bunnell, Ross'" <Ross.Bunnell at ct.gov>,
> 	<pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
> Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] FW:  Pharmwaste Listserv concerns
> Message-ID: <019b01d35323$8bbd0de0$a33729a0$@pharma-cycle.com>
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> I agree with Ross,
> 
> I am a commercial enterprise but that is not why I do What I do. We all have
> a responsibility to take care of our families, the next generation and the
> environment. I hope that this list serve continues and I hope you will all
> spend 16 minutes watching my TED talk and share with as many people as you
> can.
> 
> Here is the link https://youtu.be/zX6OsvzZdOw?t=1 
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> 
> There will be many ways to solve the problem of drugs in the water we just
> need to define what the problem is, I think I define a reasonable starting
> point in the TED talk and welcome comments from all of you.
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> 
> Jim Mullowney, President
> 
> Pharma-Cycle, LLC.
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> Associate Member American Society of Clinical Oncology
> 
> Member of the American Chemical Society
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> <mailto:jmullowney at pharma-cycle.com> jmullowney at pharma-cycle.com
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> (617) 755-0883
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> From: Pharmwaste [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf
> Of Bunnell, Ross
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 10:52 AM
> To: 'pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us'
> Subject: [Pharmwaste] FW: Pharmwaste Listserv concerns
> 
> 
> 
> I'll second Jennifer's comments and add one of my own.  
> 
> 
> 
> This spring, EPA is supposed to be issuing a proposed rule on the regulation
> of pharmwaste that will have BIG implications for retailers, healthcare
> facilities, and collection programs.  I found this listserv to be a very
> useful tool in understanding the DEA rulemaking of a few years back, and
> believe that the listserv will be equally helpful as a vehicle for exchange
> of information and ideas on the upcoming EPA rule.  I very much hope that
> the listserv will continue at least through the finalization of EPA's
> rulemaking process.
> 
> 
> 
> Ross Bunnell
> 
> Senior Sanitary Engineer
> 
> Waste Engineering & Enforcement Division
> 
> Bureau of Materials Management and Compliance Assurance
> 
> Connecticut Department of Energy and Environmental Protection
> 79 Elm Street, Hartford, CT 06105-5127
> P: 860.424.3274|F: 860.424-4059 |E:  <mailto:ross.bunnell at ct.gov>
> ross.bunnell at ct.gov 
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> <http://www.ct.gov/deep> www.ct.gov/deep
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> Conserving, improving and protecting our natural resources and environment;
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> Ensuring a clean, affordable, reliable, and sustainable energy supply.
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> 
> From: Pharmwaste [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf
> Of Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA)
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:01 PM
> To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Listserv concerns
> 
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> 
> The traffic cycles with issues. Initially it was a lot of studies outlining
> impacts to the environment and drinking water. Then we learned pharms are
> everywhere, so you can just google that sort of thing if you need it. There
> was a lot of traffic just before and after the DEA rules became effective,
> which was very helpful. The latest areas of interest are product stewardship
> actions to get manufacturers on board to help deal with the waste issue; and
> the ongoing discussion of 45's approach to the opioid crisis, as Ed shared
> earlier.  Catherine is correct that we should be pushing upstream. I think
> the list serve still has value and if you can hang on awhile, I think it is
> worth it. 
> 
> 
> 
> I would prefer not to see advertising, but my comments have always
> surrounded the notion that it should be fair-either everyone gets to, or no
> one gets to. Some long time participants have done a super job of increasing
> our knowledge while not hawking their services. Then a few odd balls show up
> and only claim they have "the best option" for dealing with the problem for
> only $x.99, vs. sharing knowledge. Again, google is your friend.  
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for everything you and the state have done to support the list
> serve! I wish I could set it up here, but looks like that's a no go. 
> 
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> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jennifer Volkman
> 
> 
> 
> From: Pharmwaste [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf
> Of Catherine Zimmer
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:09 AM
> To: 'Scarborough, Jill R.' <Jill.R.Scarborough at dep.state.fl.us>;
> pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Listserv concerns
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Jill and all,
> 
> 
> 
> Jill, thank you for coordinating the list.  I believe the list still has
> value as a place to exchange information about what is happening in the
> world of pharmaceutical waste.   I believe the exchanges have diminished due
> to the increase in pharmaceutical waste collection-both programs and vendor
> supplied systems. And, attrition on the list due to retirement and sadly,
> death.  I agree with others on the list that this is not the place for
> vendors to advertise their products.  
> 
> 
> 
> I also would like to see the list focus more on source reduction of
> pharmaceuticals, e.g. minimized prescription sizes and minimized
> prescriptions/human/animal ingestion in general.  Or, how do we prevent
> these biologically active chemicals from release to the environment where a
> significant body of evidence indicates Wildlife is being impacted?  If we
> aren't going to source reduce drug (and other chemical waste) then, we must,
> as Switzerland is doing, pay for tertiary treatment at the wastewater plant.
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> I'm curious as to what others see being done in the source reduction arena.
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> Very truly yours,
> 
> 
> 
> Catherine Zimmer, MS, BSMT
> 
> Executive director,  <http://www.hearrtmidwest.wildapricot.org/> HEARRT
> Midwest
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> Principal, Zimmer Environmental Improvement
> 
> Improving processes, minimizing and managing waste and, reducing costs.  
> 
> T:  651.645.7509
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> <mailto:zenllc at usfamily.net> zenllc at usfamily.net
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> From: Pharmwaste [ <mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
> mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Scarborough,
> Jill R.
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 12:56 PM
> To:  <mailto:pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
> pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> Subject: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Listserv concerns
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> 
> 
> Hi Everyone,
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> 
> I understand there are some concerns regarding the pharmwaste listserv.
> 
> 
> 
> Here's some details about how the listserv is managed/administered.  
> 
> *	I do not approve or disapprove new members.  I do not get
> notifications about new members or about existing members changing their
> preferences (for example if they unsubscribe       or change to getting a
> "daily digest").
> *	I do not approve or disapprove of messages.
> *	Some of you may have issues with creating "bounces" and getting an
> automated email (that I am not notified of) saying that your membership has
> been disabled.  My understanding is that this is an issue with attachments,
> links, and other things (policies enacted by your company/IT group) that
> cause mail servers to kick out an email.
> 
> 
> 
> The Mailing List Manager that is used by Florida DEP is "Mailman."  It is a
> free software and, according to Florida DEP's Mailing List information page,
> we are using version 2.1.15.  According to the software's website, they have
> two current versions: 2.1.25 and 3.1.  To my knowledge, there is no plan to
> update the version that Florida DEP is using.
> 
> 
> 
> I have heard from a few members that advertisements and self-promotional
> items are a nuisance and are at odds with the purpose of the listserv.  This
> listserv was initially developed, in 2005, to provide an electronic location
> for a national dialogue on the emerging issue of pharmaceuticals and
> personal care products (PPCPs) in the environment.  There has been a steady
> decrease in activity, participation, and general discussion.  This is not to
> say that pharmaceuticals and personal care products are no longer an
> environmental concern but rather that the need for this listserv may be
> waning.
> 
> 
> 
> At the moment, there is no easy answer for how to address the issues that
> have cropped up.  I welcome your solutions and would like to hear from you.
> Please note, the likelihood of Florida DEP buying/paying for newer software
> is low (based on the current utilization rate we have for this listserv).
> It has been suggested to me that I try to find someone else (perhaps another
> agency) to host and manage the listserv.  I do not think that Florida DEP
> would allow a someone who is not a Florida DEP employee to be the
> administrator of the listserv in its current location.
> 
> 
> 
> Again, I'd like to hear solutions if you have them.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Jill Scarborough
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> Jill R. Scarborough
> 
> Environmental Consultant
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> Division of Waste Management
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> Florida Department of Environmental Protection
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> 850-245-8782
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