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<DIV><SPAN class=847021023-15082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hello
Jack and all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=847021023-15082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
don't know if this information will be helpful, but we are also considering
applying for a grant here, so I've been thinking about what might work.
Ideas...some maybe not that well thought out...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=847021023-15082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For
households located in areas where we know their waste is directed to mixed-muni
incinerators, I think we can safely educate HH's to put old/unused pharms,
including controlled substances, in their garbage (tape up the jars, mix
them with the nasties, etc first). There is no need to collect/mail them
separately and bump into all of the regulatory and operational
issues. Pharms generated in areas where waste goes to landfills would be
worth collecting separately and mailing in or redirecting to a mixed-muni
incinerator. In this case, there could be considerable transportation
cost and operational barriers to get them from the law enforcement office to the
MM incinerator and it may be simpler to render the pharms
inedible/unrecognizable at the law enforcement office and ship them with a
HW contractor as a standard HW labpack. You'd have to comply with DOT
regulations and you'd want to work with your HW contractor to see what the
options are for packaging.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=847021023-15082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Some
of our HHW programs collect pharms, but not controlled substances. I'll
ask whether they ship the non-haz pharms in a separate lab pack or if they
just mix them in with their oil based paint. I believe they properly
lab pack the hazardous pharms, but I know I've heard of programs that handle the
non-haz pharms in a more economical manner. If local law
enforcement could take a bag o' pharms down to the county public works
garage and dump it in the oil paint drum, things would be greatly
simplified. There is, however, much to know about what is haz, non-haz and
controlled.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=847021023-15082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Oh! another idea. They could be mailed in to a controlled
mailbox at the law enforcement office(s) closest to the MM incinerator, not
every one in the state. Manufacturers could fund the system.
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=847021023-15082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We
still need to ask DEA questions and work with them on practical, safe
options. We still need to work with the medical community on ways to
reduce the amount of unused pharms.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=847021023-15082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jnifr</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Price,
John L.<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:05 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Charlotte A. Smith<BR><B>Cc:</B> Tenace, Laurie;
pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Pharmwaste] Do DEA
regulations allow municipal waste combustorto receive mailed back controlled
substances from households?Would combustors want to?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,
Charlotte. While the request worms its way through DEA, I’m thinking
we’ll need a “Plan B” in case DEA says “no.” We’re on a pretty short
time line. Even if DEA says “yes,” it still may be something that a
combustor could or would not want to do. These plants are built and operated
to receive municipal solid waste by the truckload. They may not have (or
want to have) the operational expertise or mindset to receive waste by the
envelope-load, particularly if it has to go to a secure location pretty
quickly. On the other hand, it would be no different than their office
staff receiving and processing mail to the appropriate location, so maybe I am
worrying about a non-problem. We’ll see . . . that’s what pilots
are for . . . and now I’ll end my ramblings on this topic. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jack.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">John L. (Jack) Price</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Environmental Manager</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Hazardous Waste Management MS
4555</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Florida Department of Environmental
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">2600 Blair Stone Road</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Tallahassee</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">, FL 32399-2400</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Phone:850.245.8751</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Fax: 850.245.8811</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">john.l.price@dep.state.fl.us</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">www.dep.state.fl.us/waste</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Please Note:
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
Charlotte A. Smith [mailto:csmith@pharmecology.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, August 14, 2006 10:29
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Price, John L.;
pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Tenace, Laurie; Clarke,
Raoul<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE:
[Pharmwaste] Do DEA regulations allow municipal waste combustor to receive
mailed back controlled substances from households?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Jack,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That is definitely a
question for DEA in Wash DC and your regional DEA office. It certainly is not
an accepted procedure at this time. Unless the incinerator itself is a DEA
registrant, and I don't know of any municipal incinerators that are, the
returned controlled substances need to be received by a law enforcement
officer. I suggest you write a letter to your regional DEA and they can pass
it up the chain of command for a response. You can contact them by visiting
the Diversion Office directory at <A
href="http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugreg/offices/index.html">http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugreg/offices/index.html</A>.
Please keep us posted as to their response! Hope this helps.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Charlotte A. Smith, R. Ph., M.S.,
HEM</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Price, John L.<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, August 14, 2006 9:51
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Tenace, Laurie; Clarke,
Raoul<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Pharmwaste]
Do DEA regulations allow municipal waste combustor to receive mailed back
controlled substances from households?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Our agency is submitting a grant
proposal under an EPA aging initiative for, among other things, a pilot mail
back program for household pharmaceuticals. [You may want to submit a
proposal as well, proposal deadline in 9/29/06. See attached for
details.]</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One issue with our proposal is
whether DEA regulations would permit a municipal waste combustor to receive
household unused pharmaceuticals, including controlled substances, into a
secure area of the facility. This would be much more efficient than
having the pharms returned to a law enforcement controlled mailbox, then
transshipping to the combustor that will do the destruction, witnessed for
controlled substances, regular burn for non-controlled.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> As I understand the Maine
mailback pilot under development, “As long as the postal box that accepts the
returned pharmaceuticals is in law-enforcement control, there is a specific
exemption in DEA regs for possession of controlled drugs by law-enforcement in
the line of duty (community policing for instance, or substance abuse
prevention.)” [email post to list serve 4/11/06 by
Gressitt].</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Are there exemptions or
flexibilities in the DEA controlled substances regulations that could be
interpreted to allow direct return of mailed back unused pharms from household
users to the combustor that will do the destruction? Could a secure location
at the combustor be “controlled by law enforcement” as that is defined in the
controlled substances regulations? Or is that scenario, even as a pilot
program, definitely not doable under said controlled substances
regulations?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any information will be
appreciated.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jack.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John L. (Jack) Price</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Environmental Manager</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hazardous Waste Management MS 4555</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Florida Department of Environmental
Protection</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2600 Blair Stone Road</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tallahassee</SPAN></FONT>, FL 32399-2400</P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Phone:850.245.8751</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Fax: 850.245.8811</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">john.l.price@dep.state.fl.us</SPAN></FONT></P>
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