Tom raised some very good points. Among them, how much will it cost to capture and treat dog park urine and is it worth the price? <br><br>And it's hard to tell without knowing how much pharmaceutical loading is taking place at dog parks. And the only way to tell is by testing. But there has not been any testing of established dog parks, at least - no one on this e-mail list dedicated to pharmaceutical waste , has yet to come forward with test data.<br><br>Municipalities may want to consider the cost benefit of locating a dog park near a sensitive ecosystem, where fish and bi-valves reproduce, near reservoirs or intake points for drinking water. <br><br><br><b><i>"Waters, Tom" <twaters@seminolecountyfl.gov></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta content="MSHTML
6.00.2900.3157" name="GENERATOR"> <div> <div> <div> <div><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --><font face="Lucida Handwriting"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial"><span style="">Well, this isn't going to be a real popular response. However, I personally feel that runoff from dog parks is a real stretch. My points of concern include:</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <ul type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial"><span style="">How would you propose collecting urine in a "park?" Are you going to pave it with everything sloped to drains? So much for green space. </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><o:p></o:p></span></font></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial"><span style="">Then you're going to have to cover it to keep the rainwater from discharging to
the sanitary sewer. Now we have a dog pole barn - not a park. </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><o:p></o:p></span></font></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial"><span style="">From everything I have seen there is not a treatment system that will remove medications in wastewater treatment plants<span class="627171920-26102007">; at least a a reasonable cost. If such systems were availalbe we wouldn't be preaching not to flush unwanted medications. </span> <span style=""> </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><o:p></o:p></span></font></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial"><span style="">For what it's worth, I don't think there is a real comparison between dog parks and feed lots. There’s not much room on a feed lot for the cattle to run.<span style=""> </span><span
style=""> </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><o:p></o:p></span></font></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial"><span style="">What about the cost? It is tough enough to get land for a dog park. </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><o:p></o:p></span></font></li></ul> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style=""><font face="Arial">The town I live in (not work in) has a temporary dog park with a big push toward building a permanent one. There is no doubt in my mind that if a system to collect and treat urine was required it would be dropped like smelly dog pooh. <o:p></o:p></font></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style=""><o:p><font face="Arial"> </font></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style=""><font face="Arial">I know I am way off base
with many of you, but I think there is a lot more to be done, before we worry about dog parks. <span style=""> </span><o:p></o:p></font></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style=""><o:p><font face="Arial"> </font></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style=""><font face="Arial">Tom Waters<o:p></o:p></font></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style=""><o:p><font face="Arial"> </font></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial"><span style="">PS - Now I’m feeling bad because my rescued lab has to get cortisone shots for allergies and the shots make him drink more water and the water makes him urinate more. <span style=""> </span>(Please do not send me your alternative solutions to the cortisone shots – I have enough already.) <span style=""> </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New
Roman';"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p><font face="Arial"> </font></o:p></div></font><br> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eddie Becker<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br><b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste from Dog Parks?<br></font><br></div> <div></div> <div>Does anyone know of any environmental or pharmaceutical testing at dog parks or dog runs. I am working on dog park regulations and since dogs are probably the second most medicated species (everything from antibiotics to Prozac) - it seems prudent to recommend the appropriate disposal of urine in dog parks, rather then letting it flow
untreated into steams and rivers. Any pointers would be much appreciated. </div> <div>Eddie Becker</div> <div>Washington, DC</div> <div> </div></div> <div style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Courier New;"> </div> <div style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Courier New;"> <div style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Courier New;">-****Florida has a very broad Public Records Law. Virtually all written communications to or from State and Local Officials and employees are public records available to the public and media upon request. Seminole County policy does not differentiate between personal and business emails. E-mail sent on the County system will be considered public and will only be withheld from disclosure if deemed confidential pursuant to State Law.****-</div> <div style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Courier New;"> </div> </div> </div></div> <div style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Courier New;"> </div> <div style="font-size: 9pt;
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