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<DIV><SPAN class=315533316-29102007><FONT color=#0000ff>You know I think this is
the ideal subject for my initial post to this list...first its incredibly cool
so many people think this much about this issue, second the idea of a drug free
dog park is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time, thank
you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315533316-29102007><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315533316-29102007><FONT color=#0000ff>lastly and in
seriousness, perhaps the focus should include prevention of unnecessary
pharmaceuticals in our pets or how about the Pharmaceutical companies develop
meds that do the job then decompose into something more
harmless?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315533316-29102007><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315533316-29102007><FONT color=#0000ff>Tom
Badrick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315533316-29102007><FONT color=#0000ff>Sustainability
Coordinator</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315533316-29102007><FONT color=#0000ff>Legacy Health
System</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Waters,
Tom<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 26, 2007 2:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Eddie Becker;
Pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste
from Dog Parks?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Well, this isn't going to be a real popular
response. However, I personally feel that runoff from dog parks is a real
stretch. My points of concern include:</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 5in"><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">How would you propose
collecting urine in a "park?" Are you going to pave it with everything
sloped to drains? So much for green space. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 5in"><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Then you're going to have
to cover it to keep the rainwater from discharging to the sanitary
sewer. Now we have a dog pole barn - not a park. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 5in"><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">From everything I have
seen there is not a treatment system that will remove medications in
wastewater treatment plants<SPAN class=627171920-26102007>; at least a a
reasonable cost. If such systems were availalbe we wouldn't be
preaching not to flush unwanted medications. </SPAN> <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 5in"><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">For what it's worth, I
don't think there is a real comparison between dog parks and feed lots.
There's not much room on a feed lot for the cattle to run.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 5in"><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">What about the
cost? It is tough enough to get land for a dog park. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><FONT face=Arial>The town I live in (not
work in) has a temporary dog park with a big push toward building a
permanent one. There is no doubt in my mind that if a system to
collect and treat urine was required it would be dropped like smelly dog
pooh. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p><FONT
face=Arial> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><FONT face=Arial>I know I am way off base
with many of you, but I think there is a lot more to be done, before we worry
about dog parks. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p><FONT
face=Arial> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><FONT face=Arial>Tom
Waters<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p><FONT
face=Arial> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">PS - Now I'm feeling bad because my rescued
lab has to get cortisone shots for allergies and the shots make him drink more
water and the water makes him urinate more. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Please do not send me your alternative
solutions to the cortisone shots - I have enough already.) <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT
face=Arial> </FONT></o:p></P></FONT><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Eddie
Becker<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste from
Dog Parks?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Does anyone know of any environmental or pharmaceutical testing
at dog parks or dog runs. I am working on dog park regulations
and since dogs are probably the second most medicated species (everything from
antibiotics to Prozac) - it seems prudent to recommend the appropriate
disposal of urine in dog parks, rather then letting it flow untreated
into steams and rivers. Any pointers would be much appreciated.
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<DIV>Eddie Becker</DIV>
<DIV>Washington, DC</DIV>
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