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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>William,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I concur with Charlotte’s response. I used
Physostigmine Salicylate purely as an example of a liquid that is an acutely
toxic P-Listed waste. The pH range is around 3.2-5 which makes it not
corrosive by RCRA. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Jeff Hollar</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>President</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
style='color:blue'>PharmWaste Technologies, Inc.</span></b><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>4164 NW Urbandale Dr., Suite A</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Urbandale, IA 50322</span><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>(P) 515-276-5302 Ext. 316</span><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>(F) 480-393-5564</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>(E) <a href="mailto:Jhollar@Pwaste.com">Jhollar@Pwaste.com</a></span><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Charlotte A. Smith
[mailto:csmith@pharmecology.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> William More; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 36, Issue 11<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Physostigmine is often used in the operation room. No, it does not
have a low pH. Acutely hazardous wastes (P-listed) have an LD50 of 50mg/kg or
less. (oral LD 50 is the dose per kg that kills half the lab animals when
administered orally, usually mice or rats. The lower the LD50, the more toxic.)
That is, they are considered acutely toxic. There is no correlation
between corrosivity and acute toxicity. They are two very different and
separate definitions of hazardous waste.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'>Best regards,</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Charlotte A. Smith, R. Ph., M.S., HEM</span><span style='color:
navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'>President</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>PharmEcology Associates, LLC</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>12229 W. North Ave., Suite 2</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'>Wauwatosa, WI 53226</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>414-292-3959</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>414-915-4026 (cell)</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><a href="mailto:csmith@pharmecology.com">csmith@pharmecology.com</a></span><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>William More<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 36, Issue 11</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>How often do you see
Physostigmine Salicylate (P188)? Are you saying it is also a D002 as it
has a low pH?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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1. RE: Pharmaceutical Corrosives (Jeff Hollar)<br>
2. FW: Sample prescription drugs (Tenace, Laurie)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:57:29 -0500<br>
From: "Jeff Hollar" <jhollar@pwaste.com><br>
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmaceutical Corrosives<br>
To: "'Sue Dayton'" <sdayton@swcp.com>,<br>
<pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us><br>
Cc: 'Carolyn Cole' <comet2000@nc.rr.com><br>
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Sue,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In our Waste-ID software, we classify pharmaceutical waste as a hazardous<br>
corrosive (D002, yes D002) if it has a pH of less than or equal to 2 or<br>
greater than or equal to<br>
<br>
12.5 (40 CFR Part 261.22). An example of an acutely hazardous liquid<br>
pharmaceutical waste would be Physostigmine Salicylate (P188), as it is a<br>
P-Listed waste. P-listed wastes are<br>
<br>
commercial chemical products which are classified as acutely hazardous under<br>
RCRA.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jeff Hollar<br>
<br>
President<br>
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<br>
<br>
PharmWaste Technologies, Inc.<br>
<br>
4164 NW Urbandale Dr., Suite A<br>
<br>
Urbandale, IA 50322<br>
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(P) 515-276-5302 Ext. 316<br>
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(F) 480-393-5564<br>
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(E) Jhollar@Pwaste.com<br>
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From: Sue Dayton [mailto:sdayton@swcp.com] <br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:10 AM<br>
To: 'Jeff Hollar'; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
Cc: 'Carolyn Cole'<br>
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmaceutical Corrosives<br>
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Hi Jeff:<br>
<br>
I have a question for you from a friend - do you know what is the ph level<br>
(or other factor) is for classifying such liquids and solutions as acutely<br>
hazardous vs. hazardous vs non-hazardous?<br>
<br>
Thank you!<br>
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Sue Dayton<br>
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Blue Ridge Environmental Defense League<br>
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North Carolina Healthy Communities Program<br>
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PO BOX 44<br>
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From: pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Jeff Hollar<br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:06 AM<br>
To: pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Pharmaceutical Corrosives<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I just posted this on the Practice Greenhealth listserve, but thought it<br>
would be beneficial to many of the members of this Pharmwaste listserve as<br>
well. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Many of our hospital pharmacy customers are surprised to find out that their<br>
pharmaceutical inventory contains potentially corrosive waste other than a<br>
few compounding chemicals. One good example of this is Sporanox Solution
by<br>
JOM. A review of the package insert indicates a target pH of
2. We have<br>
performed internal tests and found the mode average pH to be closer to 1.
A<br>
liquid waste with a pH of 1 is considered corrosive waste by the EPA and<br>
carries an EPA waste code of D003. It is also considered corrosive when<br>
shipping by the DOT and carries a DOT shipping number of 8.<br>
<br>
We have found the pharmaceutical corrosive waste stream to be overlooked in<br>
many of the pharmaceutical inventories that we've analyzed. For those<br>
pharmacies performing their own waste identification analysis, I would<br>
encourage them to closely review the pH's of the liquids and solutions in<br>
their inventory. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jeff Hollar<br>
<br>
President<br>
<br>
PharmWaste Technologies, Inc.<br>
<br>
Urbandale, IA 50322<br>
<br>
Email: jhollar@pwaste.com<br>
<br>
Website: www.pwaste.com<br>
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515-276-5302<br>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:52:17 -0400<br>
From: "Tenace, Laurie" <Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us><br>
Subject: [Pharmwaste] FW: Sample prescription drugs<br>
To: <pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us><br>
Cc: ayoungblut@cvmspc.com<br>
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Can anyone help this person?<br>
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<br>
This question comes up a lot for me. A Florida Statute says, "All
out-of-date<br>
drug samples must be returned to the manufacturer or distributor of that drug<br>
sample." (Ch. 499.028(9), F.S.) However every drug rep I've asked (just
while<br>
waiting to see doctors at various times) has never heard this and insists<br>
that they do not take back samples. <br>
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<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
Laurie<br>
<br>
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<br>
Laurie J. Tenace<br>
Environmental Specialist<br>
Florida Department of Environmental Protection<br>
2600 Blair Stone Road, MS 4555<br>
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2400<br>
PH: (850) 245-8759<br>
FAX: (850) 245-8811<br>
Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us <br>
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Mercury web pages:<br>
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Unwanted Medications web pages:<br>
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From: Angie Youngblut [mailto:AYoungblut@cvmspc.com] <br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:39 PM<br>
To: pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
Subject: FW: Sample prescription drugs<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have been trying to get one clear answer- and haven't had much success. I<br>
have tried EPA, DNR, Iowa Board of Pharmacy, local landfill and others. I<br>
have expired sample prescription drugs to dispose of and I don't want to<br>
break any regulations, however I have been told I am a "waste generating<br>
facility" and therefore have different rules. It has been recommended to
me<br>
to mix them with undesirable substances and put in regular trash and that<br>
they are not considered hazardous.<br>
<br>
I do not have the option of giving them to a charitable organization because<br>
they will only take them( in the Iowa Drug Repository program) with a year<br>
left on the expiration and our offices keep them until they expire. <br>
<br>
Is there any clear guideline federally or in Iowa that I have missed? <br>
<br>
Angie Youngblut RN, BS <br>
Clinical Practice Manager <br>
Cedar Valley Medical Specialists, P.C. <br>
4150 Kimball Avenue <br>
Waterloo, Iowa 50701 <br>
Phone 319-235-5390 <br>
Fax 319-287-9249 <br>
ayoungblut@cvmspc.com<br>
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The Department of Environmental <br>
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Protection values your feedback as a customer. DEP Secretary Michael W. Sole is
committed to continuously assessing and <br>
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improving the level and quality of services provided to you. Please take a few
minutes to comment on the quality of <br>
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survey: <a
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