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<P><FONT size=2>Hi Charlotte,<BR><BR>A consumer mail back is a great idea.
In fact, I would encourage consumers to "just do it" (to borrow Nike's
slogan). If enough consumers mailed their un-used controlled substances
back, without a return address, pressure would be brought to bear by the
manufacturers for government to do something. The unfortunate truth is
that pharmaceutical manufacturers have much more power than the few consumers
that want to do the right thing. The pharms industry is good at solving their
dilemmas.<BR><BR>It's better than
flushing.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Barry<BR><BR>Clean Fuels of Florida, Inc.<BR>D.
Barry Fernandez, President<BR>2635 NE 4th Avenue<BR>Pompano Beach, FL
33064<BR>Tel: 954-791-9588<BR>Fax: 954-791-9366<BR>Cell:
305-216-4941<BR>Toll Free:
800-725-8711<BR>barry@clean-fuels.net<BR>www.clean-fuels.net<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Charlotte A. Smith [<A
href="mailto:csmith@pharmecology.com">mailto:csmith@pharmecology.com</A>]<BR>Sent:
Friday, January 16, 2009 10:09 AM<BR>To: Gilliam, Allen; Sue Dayton; Vizzier,
Michael; Mindy Rasmussen; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>Subject: RE:
[Pharmwaste] Do Flush list?<BR><BR>Hi Everyone,<BR><BR>Most controlled
substances are dispensed by the pharmacy into the common plastic vials you
receive at the drugstore or through mail order, especially since they are
usually not a maintenance med where you'd be getting the full bottle as packaged
by the manufacturer. Those are already labeled with a C and the appropriate
schedule number, II, III, IV, or IV. So we are back to square one on
identification. The real solution is to get a change in the DEA regulations so
they can go back through a consumer mail back program.<BR><BR>Best
regards,<BR><BR>Charlotte A. Smith, R. Ph., M.S.,
HEM<BR>President<BR>PharmEcology Associates, LLC<BR>12229 W. North Ave., Suite
2<BR>Wauwatosa, WI
53226<BR>414-292-3959<BR>414-915-4026(cell)<BR>csmith@pharmecology.com<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>[<A
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>]
On Behalf Of Gilliam, Allen<BR>Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:59 AM<BR>To: Sue
Dayton; Vizzier, Michael; Mindy Rasmussen;
pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Do Flush
list?<BR><BR>Seems it should be a fairly easy effort for the manufacturer to
make the controlled meds' containers a dark red for easy identification for the
consumer even tho different states have different rules on what's controlled and
what's not. The feds have their national list and the states can go even
further.<BR><BR>The national drug code (NDC) code does not readily identify what
the med is and whether it might be controlled or not. So, I'm with you,
Sue, folks will/can not easily separate controlled vs non- for proper
disposal.<BR><BR>Just talked to my pharmacist. In talking about the
expiration dates, some drugs are still effective beyond that date but, she did
warn vitamin C can turn possibly carcinogenic once expired. Beware, the
vitamins too?<BR><BR>Allen Gilliam<BR>ADEQ State Pretreatment type
guy<BR>501.682.0625 <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>[<A
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>]
On Behalf Of Sue Dayton<BR>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:24 PM<BR>To:
'Vizzier, Michael'; 'Mindy Rasmussen';
pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Do Flush
list?<BR><BR><BR>My first reaction to this "Do Flush" list is not one that's
optimistic.<BR>Considering the plethora of various prescription drugs that are
presubscribed nowadays, with no end in sight, I do not think that people can be
tasked with educating themselves on which drugs can and can't be
flushed.<BR><BR><BR>Will it ever be like taking your motor oil to be disposed of
in the "special" landfill: It's hard to imagine....<BR><BR>Sue Dayton<BR>Blue
Ridge Environmental Defense League<BR>North Carolina Healthy Communities Program
PO BOX 44 Saxapahaw, NC 27340<BR>(336)
525-2003<BR>sdayton@swcp.com<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Our lives begin to end the day
we become silent about things that matter.<BR>- Martin Luther King
Jr.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>[<A
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>]
On Behalf Of Vizzier, Michael<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:53 AM<BR>To:
Mindy Rasmussen; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste]
Do Flush list?<BR><BR>Here's a link:<BR><A
href="http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/drugfact/factsht/proper_disposal.htm">http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/drugfact/factsht/proper_disposal.htm</A><BR>l<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>[<A
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>]
On Behalf Of Mindy Rasmussen<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:47 AM<BR>To:
pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Do Flush
list?<BR><BR>Does anyone have a copy of the updated "Do Flush" list from the DEA
as it relates to certain controls? I understand that number grew from around 12
categories.<BR><BR>Mindy Rasmussen, R.Ph.<BR>Executive Director/CEO<BR>Arizona
Pharmacy Alliance<BR>1845 E. Southern Ave.<BR>Tempe, AZ 85282<BR>(480) 838-3385
(office)<BR>(480) 838-3557 (fax)<BR>(480) 221-0204 (NEW CELL
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