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<DIV>I think it would be a great eco-footprint project....I smell a college
class project</DIV>
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<DIV>well we are on the topic, lets not forget a couple of the reasons
behind the new push on hand sanitizers</DIV>
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<DIV>1. The federal government making a huge deal about pandemics as a
national security issue...I'm not saying good or bad here but in the hospitals I
worked in it became a "program" and in the hands of a skilled director trying to
climb the ladder becomes a "cause" and although causes are fun they
typically fade quickly in terms of efficacy and then you have 5 trillion
soap and gel and foam containers everywhere and common sense typically gets
pushed out of the way when its a cause. We had one project where the issue
of "litter" in the hallways (very little btw) was addressed by installing dozens
of wall mounted boxes of gloves and paper towel dispensers with the assumption
being that people did not pick up littler in the hall for fear of contamination,
you know gum wrappers being a major risk and all. End result was
dispensers were always out of paper towels and people stole boxes of gloves with
great regularity...much easier to grab that box than order from supply or buy at
the store.</DIV>
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<DIV>One of the assumptions I saw pushed aside was the expectation that health
care workers absolutely should be expected to wash hands between patients....now
the idea that a trained healthcare worker who is trying to help patients
deliberately chooses to disregard one of the most basic precautions both to
themselves and their patients.....this is an educational issue but also a
professional disciplinary issue...if they give the wrong meds repeatedly its
treated that way...its a basic core competency, period. No debate.</DIV>
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<DIV>2. The focus is always on nurses and docs but lets not forget that
support staff such as housekeepers touch many things and often are far more
capable of transmitting....we had a guy who picked up the med waste from within
the facility...older, nice, rigid, etc....it was a big win to get him to take
his gloves off when he went to the cafeteria...you inherently have to recognize
he probably didn't do that in the prescribed method either. This is not a
rare situation. Sick people come to hospitals, the bottom line is you
cannot maintain sterility in a public facility designed to treat sick people for
the most part and we should stop obsessing about that aspect and be rational
about what we can accomplish. Hand washing should be an easy win....and
many facilities show a compliance rate of around 50%. More soap types and
putting it everywhere does not fix that type of problem.</DIV>
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<DIV>3. Last, but not least...the changes in regulations that
says Medicare and Medicaid will not pay for hospital acquired
infections...make no mistake about it this is huge bucks at stake. This
makes it a "management crisis" and rational science based discussion stops right
there when its becomes a thing to fix, not a cultural change. Every
month there is a new "crisis" and the old one is forgotten quickly.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Tom Badrick</DIV>
<DIV>Badrick Consulting</DIV>
<DIV>who is shocked that such a blatantly unsafe experiment as lighting gel on
fire could occur ;-)</DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 9/30/2009 7:04:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
merylklein@earthlink.net writes:</DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>Has
anyone thought of doing a life cycle analysis on resources used (soap and
water [remember that water is fast becoming a commodity]) vs. sanitizer and
comparing the effectiveness of both. I know there was a study back in
the early 2000s comparing handwashing and alcohol-based sanitizers and they
found that the sanitizers with moisturizers were better for hospital employees
who had to wash often as the soap and water and plain sanitizer dried the
hands too much and let in infection. Triclosan should definitely be
banned. Period.
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<DIV>Perhaps there are times when small children, unless strictly monitored,
are not up to the task of properly washing their hands. I watch my own
four year old wash mostly properly and then cringe when she touches the sink
and just about every other surface there is in the public restroom despite my
explanations of why we should not do this after she washes her hands.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think there is a place for both proper handwashing and sanitizer.</DIV>
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</SPAN>1. RE: hand sanitizer (Suhr, Marcus W.)</DIV>
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</SPAN>2. RE: RE: hand sanitizer (Lyle Milby)</DIV>
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</SPAN>3. RE: RE: hand sanitizer (Gressitt, Stevan)</DIV>
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</SPAN>5. RE: RE: hand sanitizer (Matthew C. Mireles)</DIV>
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</SPAN>6. RE: RE: hand sanitizer (Volkman, Jennifer)</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Message: 1</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:19:33 -0400</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: "Suhr, Marcus W." <<A
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: <<A
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I read an article where a child was poisoned by
alcohol sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">recently.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Its only a matter of time before a child dies, or they start</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">getting the swift idea of lighting it.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>My own step-son was required
by</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">the school to bring a bottle to begin the
year.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>This is a clear
example</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">of bringing an item to market, and not enough
controls.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Everyone
thinks</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">sanitizer is so great. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Anyone else being requested to bring it to school?
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marcus Suhr, ASP<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Industrial Hygienist<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Christiana Care Health Services<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Occupational Safety Department, Office L840J<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">4755 Ogletown-Stanton Road<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Newark, DE 19718<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-733-3787 (office)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-573-7662 (pager)<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:MSuhr@christianacare.org
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Message: 2</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:27:37 -0500</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: "Lyle Milby" <<A
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: "Suhr, Marcus W." <<A
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Our school system is putting these out in all of
the schools at the</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">recommendation of the County Health Department in
response to H1N1.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Our</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Fire Department expressed reservations but they
decided to go ahead with</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">it.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>I assume it is an alcohol based product because of the fire</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">department concern.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Lyle Milby</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">City of Norman</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Environmental Services</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">P.O. Box 370</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Norman, OK<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">(405) 292-9731</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: <A
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On Behalf Of Suhr,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marcus W.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:20 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: <A
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I read an article where a child was poisoned by
alcohol sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">recently.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Its only a matter of time before a child dies, or they start</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">getting the swift idea of lighting it.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>My own step-son was required
by</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">the school to bring a bottle to begin the
year.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>This is a clear
example</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">of bringing an item to market, and not enough
controls.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Everyone
thinks</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">sanitizer is so great. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Anyone else being requested to bring it to school?
<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marcus Suhr, ASP<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Industrial Hygienist<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Christiana Care Health Services<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Occupational Safety Department, Office L840J<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">4755 Ogletown-Stanton Road<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Newark, DE 19718<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-733-3787 (office)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-573-7662 (pager)<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-733-3771 (fax)<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:MSuhr@christianacare.org
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Let's see, 62% Ethyl Alcohol= 124 proof? Jack
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: <A
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On Behalf Of Lyle</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Milby</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: Suhr, Marcus W.; <A
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Our school system is putting these out in all of
the schools at the</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">recommendation of the County Health Department in
response to H1N1.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Our</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Fire Department expressed reservations but they
decided to go ahead with</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">it.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>I assume it is an alcohol based product because of the fire</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">department concern.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Lyle Milby</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">City of Norman</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Environmental Services</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">P.O. Box 370</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Norman, OK<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>73070</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">(405) 292-9731</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:lyle.milby@normanok.gov
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: <A
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On Behalf Of Suhr,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marcus W.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:20 PM</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I read an article where a child was poisoned by
alcohol sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">recently.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Its only a matter of time before a child dies, or they start</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">getting the swift idea of lighting it.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>My own step-son was required
by</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">the school to bring a bottle to begin the
year.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>This is a clear
example</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">of bringing an item to market, and not enough
controls.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Everyone
thinks</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">sanitizer is so great. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Anyone else being requested to bring it to school?
<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marcus Suhr, ASP<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Industrial Hygienist<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Christiana Care Health Services<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Occupational Safety Department, Office L840J<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Newark, DE 19718<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-733-3787 (office)</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:01:30 EDT</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: <A title=mailto:TBadrick@aol.com
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: <A
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href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I refer to them as little bombs in the
hospital.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>In an age where
fire <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">marshals freak out over recycling containers size
due to fire risk....its okay <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">to put aerosol containers (otherwise known as
compressed gas cylinders) of <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">flammable materials every twenty feet or so along a
wall?..<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>gee I feel <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">safe now.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Whatever happened to soap and water and proper technique? <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>is that<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">too complicated?<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>This is what happens when rampant
uneducated fear<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>trumps<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">science and logic.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I clearly remember the day, sitting in the Reno
airport bar and Wolf <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Blitzer comes on TV with a special report about
deadly MRSA...all I could think <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">about was how this would put a halt to all other
hospital projects to solve<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">a<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>problem that really wasn't a problem, because guess what MRSA is
already <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">everywhere and that just employing proper hand
washing would do just <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">fine....sigghhhh, I must be getting older ;-)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Tom Badrick</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Badrick Consulting</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">In a message dated 9/29/2009 12:28:22 P.M. Pacific
Daylight Time, <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov
href="mailto:Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov">Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov</A>
writes:</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Our<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>school system is putting these out in all of the schools at<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>the</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">recommendation of the County Health Department in
response to<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>H1N1.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Our</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Fire Department expressed reservations but they
decided to<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>go ahead
with</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">it.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>I assume it is an alcohol based product because of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>the fire</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">department concern.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Lyle Milby</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">City of<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Norman</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Environmental Services</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">P.O. Box 370</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Norman, OK <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>73070</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">(405) 292-9731</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:lyle.milby@normanok.gov
href="mailto:lyle.milby@normanok.gov">lyle.milby@normanok.gov</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">-----Original<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From:<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN><A title=mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">[<A
title=mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>On Behalf Of Suhr,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marcus W.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:20<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: <A
title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I read an article where a child was poisoned by
alcohol<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">recently.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Its only a matter of time before a child dies, or<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>they start</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">getting the swift idea of lighting it.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>My own step-son was<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>required by</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">the school to bring a bottle to begin the
year.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>This is a<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>clear example</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">of bringing an item to market, and not enough
controls. <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Everyone
thinks</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">sanitizer is so great. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Anyone else being<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>requested to bring it to school?
<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marcus Suhr, ASP <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Industrial Hygienist<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Christiana Care Health Services<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Occupational<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Safety Department, Office
L840J<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">4755 Ogletown-Stanton Road<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Newark, DE<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>19718<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-733-3787 (office)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-573-7662 (pager)<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-733-3771 (fax) <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:MSuhr@christianacare.org
href="mailto:MSuhr@christianacare.org">MSuhr@christianacare.org</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Message: 5</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:19:44 -0400 (EDT)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: "Matthew C. Mireles" <<A
title=mailto:mirelesmc@earthlink.net
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: "Gressitt,Stevan" <<A
title=mailto:Stevan.Gressitt@maine.gov
href="mailto:Stevan.Gressitt@maine.gov">Stevan.Gressitt@maine.gov</A>>,<SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=Apple-tab-span> </SPAN>Lyle Milby</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><<A title=mailto:Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov
href="mailto:Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov">Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov</A>>,<SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=Apple-tab-span> </SPAN>"Suhr,Marcus W."</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><<A title=mailto:MSuhr@ChristianaCare.org
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Cc: <A title=mailto:linkfilion@yahoo.com
href="mailto:linkfilion@yahoo.com">linkfilion@yahoo.com</A>, Elizabeth Smith
<<A title=mailto:smithce@flash.net
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Message-ID:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Dr. Jerry Miller, an epidemiologist, at our
Foundation would be a good person to consult with.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>He did a fellowship at CDC in
Atlanta and is now our VP for Research.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">For schools and some clinical facilitites, we
recommend simple, proper handwashing with soap and warm water as well as
prudent hygiene and sanitation practices.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Some school districts are
presenting learning lessons with practices in the lavatory for the correct
handwashing.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>I heard one
school has kids reciting the alphabet A-Z (approx 15 sec--about same time
recommended by CDC for kids) to time how long they should lather hands with
soap before rinsing.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Paper
napkins or motion-sensed driers are used to dry hands.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Some even instruct kids to avoid
touching door handles and open the door with a paper napkin and throw the
napkin the waste basket right outside the restroom.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Kids are reminded to cover their nose and mouths
with tissue when they sneeze or cough.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>If tissue paper is not available,
they are instructed to cough or sneeze into their folded upper arms so they
won't spread germs.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>It's hoot
to walk into a classroom as see kids practicing how to cough into their
arms.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Many lessons that I'm
mentioned are strategies being used mainly on the west coast as an
introduction to personal hygiene as well as proper etiquette.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Hand sanitizing, disinfecting gels, liquids,
ointments, etc. are useful in some occasions but probably not too wise as an
effort to prevent infection and cross contamination.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>to require parents to provide the
product to their kids without sufficient rationale for the parents or the
kids might be interpreted as an extraneous attempt to combat the H1N1
epidemic.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>There's already a
misplaced fear of H1N1 being spread by pork products.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Please save the bacon!</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Reliance on only these liquids or gel sanitzers may
produce some unintended consequences.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>CDC reports 2 million cases of
nosocomial infections in our hospitals resulting in 90,000 deaths of our
patients each year.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Hospitals
are frantically investing money into putting dispensers with hand sanitizers
on the floors, in patients' rooms, waiting rooms, etc.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Some hospitals hire secret
monitors to observe handwashing and record noncompliance; some even pay
staff members to wash their hands correctly out of sheer desperation.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>in addition to carrying the
stethoscope and cheat sheets in their pockets, many nurses and docs are
given courtesy of the medical supply companies personal bottles of hand
sanitzers.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Hence, many are
skippping the standard sink and soap routine. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">The results have not been too impressive: infection
rate has not gotten better.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>As a matter of fact, healthcare professionals' behavior and attitude
with proper handwashing have worsen. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">We were contracted by a major company in Austin TX
to provide a health education and promotion poster for handwashing--we
recommended soap and water and hygiene.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>We thought about inviting those
kids to do a demo for the company's execs and remind them that sometimes
simple is best, like the ABCs.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Matthew C. Mireles, PhD, MPH</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">President and CEO</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Community Medical Foundation for Patient
Safety</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: "Gressitt, Stevan" <<A
title=mailto:Stevan.Gressitt@maine.gov
href="mailto:Stevan.Gressitt@maine.gov">Stevan.Gressitt@maine.gov</A>></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Sep 29, 2009 2:39 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: Lyle Milby <<A
title=mailto:Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov
href="mailto:Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov">Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov</A>>,
"Suhr, Marcus W." <<A title=mailto:MSuhr@ChristianaCare.org
href="mailto:MSuhr@ChristianaCare.org">MSuhr@ChristianaCare.org</A>>,
<A title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand
sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Let's see, 62% Ethyl Alcohol= 124 proof? Jack
Daniels is what?<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Stevan Gressitt, M.D., Medical Director</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Office of Adult Mental Health Services</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Department of Health and Human Services</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marquardt Building, 2nd Floor</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">11 State House Station</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">32 Blossom Lane</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Augusta, ME<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>04333-0011</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Ph: (207)287-4273</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Fax: (207)287-1022</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Cell Phone: (207) 441-0291</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">E-Mail : <A
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: <A
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href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
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href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>]
On Behalf Of Lyle</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Milby</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: Suhr, Marcus W.; <A
title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand
sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Our school system is putting these out in all of
the schools at the</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">recommendation of the County Health Department in
response to H1N1.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Our</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Fire Department expressed reservations but they
decided to go ahead with</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">it.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>I assume it is an alcohol based product because of the fire</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">department concern.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Lyle Milby</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">City of Norman</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Environmental Services</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">P.O. Box 370</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Norman, OK<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>73070</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">(405) 292-9731</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:lyle.milby@normanok.gov
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: <A
title=mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
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title=mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>]
On Behalf Of Suhr,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marcus W.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:20 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: <A
title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I read an article where a child was poisoned by
alcohol sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">recently.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Its only a matter of time before a child dies, or they start</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">getting the swift idea of lighting it.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>My own step-son was required
by</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">the school to bring a bottle to begin the
year.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>This is a clear
example</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">of bringing an item to market, and not enough
controls.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Everyone
thinks</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">sanitizer is so great. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Anyone else being requested to bring it to
school? <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Marcus Suhr, ASP<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Industrial Hygienist<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Christiana Care Health Services<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Occupational Safety Department, Office L840J<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Newark, DE 19718<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-733-3787 (office)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">302-573-7662 (pager)<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Message: 6</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:22:54 -0500</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: "Volkman, Jennifer" <<A
title=mailto:Jennifer.Volkman@state.mn.us
href="mailto:Jennifer.Volkman@state.mn.us">Jennifer.Volkman@state.mn.us</A>></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: <<A title=mailto:TBadrick@aol.com
href="mailto:TBadrick@aol.com">TBadrick@aol.com</A>>, <<A
title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Message-ID:</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><<A
title=mailto:6246727221874A4FB8D3F9BBC37D9BD5079D9258@s-sp22.pca.state.mn.us
href="mailto:6246727221874A4FB8D3F9BBC37D9BD5079D9258@s-sp22.pca.state.mn.us">6246727221874A4FB8D3F9BBC37D9BD5079D9258@s-sp22.pca.state.mn.us</A>></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">My kids haven't been asked to carry concealed
yet.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>They used to get
an</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">extra credit point for bringing a box of tissues to
class, but the</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">school disallowed that practice this year because
they felt it might be</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">unfair to those who could not afford to supply the
school with tissues.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">So, the kids are packing their own or using the
back of the hand, wall,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">desk or whatever is handy.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Management at our state agency
(and probably</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">all of them in MN) issued each desk a 4 oz bottle
(apparently this</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">equals about 8 martinis) and a container of
wipes.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>I've heard they
will</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">be installing dispensers outside all of our
conference rooms, just like</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">hospitals.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>A nurse friend of mine said they had to switch to another</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">type of sanitizer at her hospital because too many
employees (they like</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">to blame the janitors) were adding a shot to their
morning coffee. It</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">fits right in with all the other craziness...must
be something in the</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">water...</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: <A
title=mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">[<A
title=mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>]
On Behalf Of</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:TBadrick@aol.com
href="mailto:TBadrick@aol.com">TBadrick@aol.com</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:01 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: <A
title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I refer to them as little bombs in the
hospital.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>In an age where
fire</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">marshals freak out over recycling containers size
due to fire</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">risk....its okay to put aerosol containers
(otherwise known as</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">compressed gas cylinders) of flammable materials
every twenty feet or so</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">along a wall?..<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>gee I feel safe now.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Whatever happened to soap
and</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">water and proper technique?<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>is that too complicated?<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>This is what</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">happens when rampant uneducated fear trumps science
and logic.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I clearly remember the day, sitting in the Reno
airport bar and Wolf</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Blitzer comes on TV with a special report about
deadly MRSA...all I</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">could think about was how this would put a halt to
all other hospital</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">projects to solve a problem that really wasn't a
problem, because guess</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">what MRSA is already everywhere and that just
employing proper hand</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">washing would do just fine....sigghhhh, I must be
getting older ;-)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Tom Badrick</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Badrick Consulting</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">In a message dated 9/29/2009 12:28:22 P.M. Pacific
Daylight Time,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov
href="mailto:Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov">Lyle.Milby@NormanOK.gov</A>
writes:</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Our school system is putting these out in all of
the schools at</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">the</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>recommendation of the County Health Department
in response to</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">H1N1.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>Our</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Fire Department expressed reservations but they
decided to go</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">ahead with</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>it.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space>
</SPAN>I assume it is an alcohol based product because of the fire</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>department concern.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Lyle Milby</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>City of Norman</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Environmental Services</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>P.O. Box 370</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Norman, OK<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>73070</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>(405) 292-9731</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><A title=mailto:lyle.milby@normanok.gov
href="mailto:lyle.milby@normanok.gov">lyle.milby@normanok.gov</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>From: <A
title=mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>[<A
title=mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>]
On Behalf Of</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Suhr,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Marcus W.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:20 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>To: <A
title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Subject: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>I read an article where a child was poisoned by
alcohol</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>recently.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Its only a matter of time before a
child dies, or</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">they start</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>getting the swift idea of lighting it.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>My own step-son was</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">required by</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>the school to bring a bottle to begin the
year.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>This is a clear</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">example</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>of bringing an item to market, and not enough
controls.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Everyone thinks</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>sanitizer is so great. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Anyone else being requested to bring it to
school? <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Marcus Suhr, ASP<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Industrial Hygienist<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Christiana Care Health Services<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Occupational Safety Department, Office
L840J<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>4755 Ogletown-Stanton Road<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>Newark, DE 19718<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>302-733-3787 (office)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>302-573-7662 (pager)<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>302-733-3771 (fax)<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><A title=mailto:MSuhr@christianacare.org
href="mailto:MSuhr@christianacare.org">MSuhr@christianacare.org</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
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title=http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/pharmwaste
href="http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/pharmwaste">http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/pharmwaste</A><SPAN
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Contact List Administrator</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us">Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us</A><SPAN
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class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>SEND MAIL to the list server at:</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
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class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>TO SUBSCRIBE, go to:</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A
title=http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharmwaste
href="http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharmwaste">http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharmwaste</A><SPAN
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Please send an</DIV>
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title=mailto:pharmwaste-unsubscribe@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste-unsubscribe@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-unsubscribe@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>If you believe you may be subscribed with a
different email</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">address, please visit the subscriber listing
at</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A
title=http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/pharmwaste
href="http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/pharmwaste">http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/pharmwaste</A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>FOR PROBLEMS:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Contact List Administrator</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A title=mailto:Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us">Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us</A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>SEND MAIL to the list server at:</DIV>
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href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Message: 7</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:30 -0400 (EDT)</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: "Matthew C. Mireles" <<A
title=mailto:mirelesmc@earthlink.net
href="mailto:mirelesmc@earthlink.net">mirelesmc@earthlink.net</A>></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: hand sanitizer</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: "Volkman,Jennifer" <<A
title=mailto:Jennifer.Volkman@state.mn.us
href="mailto:Jennifer.Volkman@state.mn.us">Jennifer.Volkman@state.mn.us</A>>,</DIV>
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class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><A title=mailto:TBadrick@aol.com
href="mailto:TBadrick@aol.com">TBadrick@aol.com</A>, <A
title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Cc: <A
title=mailto:jerrymiller@communityofcompetence.com
href="mailto:jerrymiller@communityofcompetence.com">jerrymiller@communityofcompetence.com</A>,
Elizabeth Smith</DIV>
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href="mailto:smithce@flash.net">smithce@flash.net</A>>,<SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=Apple-tab-span> </SPAN><A
title=mailto:mcmireles@communityofcompetence.com
href="mailto:mcmireles@communityofcompetence.com">mcmireles@communityofcompetence.com</A>,</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">TO UNSUBSCRIBE, DO NOT REPLY TO THE LISTSERV.
Please send an e-mail to <A
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href="mailto:pharmwaste-unsubscribe@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-unsubscribe@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">If you believe you may be subscribed with a
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title=http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/pharmwaste
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">FOR PROBLEMS:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Contact List Administrator <A
title=mailto:Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us
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title=mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</A></DIV>
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