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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma">MN actually regulates that way too (once collected, manage HHW as HW if it is HW according to RCRA definitions). But that is in accordance to our own state rules, which we can temporarily modify with
well developed and documented policy for more immediate relief. The policy may eventually become rule. This allows a more timely solution to issues like HH Pharm management that were never conceived when we first drafted what we thought were excellent rules.
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Thompson.Virginia@epamail.epa.gov [Thompson.Virginia@epamail.epa.gov]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gilliam, Allen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us; 'Bunnell, Ross'; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] Household pharms (even haz waste) excluded<br>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Some states (including Pennsylvania) do not apply the household haz waste exemption to waste that is brought back together into one location such as at a collection event. The pharmaceutical collection events that have been
held in PA have required compliance with PA's hazardous waste regulations as though the waste had not been household waste. There may be other states that also do not keep the household waste exemption when household haz waste is collected.
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Virginia Thompson<br>
Sustainable Healthcare Sector Manager<br>
Office of Environmental Innovation (3EA40)<br>
US Environmental Protection Agency Region 3<br>
1650 Arch Street, Philadelphia, PA 19103<br>
Voice: (215) 814-5755; Fax (215) 814-2783<br>
thompson.virginia@epa.gov<br>
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<td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">"Gilliam, Allen" <GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us></font>
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<td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">"'Bunnell, Ross'" <Ross.Bunnell@ct.gov>, "pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us" <pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us></font>
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<td><font color="#5f5f5f" size="1" face="sans-serif">Date:</font> </td>
<td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">04/07/2010 01:08 PM</font> </td>
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<td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">RE: [Pharmwaste] Household pharms (even haz waste) excluded</font></td>
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<font color="blue" size="2" face="Arial">I know there's non-supporters "out there" for incineration, but I'm surprised to hear more take back programs are not popping up utilizing this exemption.</font>
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<font color="blue" size="2" face="Arial">thanx Ross,</font> <br>
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<font color="blue" size="2" face="Arial">allen g</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<b><br>
From:</b> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [</font><a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</font></a><font size="2" face="Tahoma">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bunnell, Ross<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM<b><br>
To:</b> pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] Household pharms (even haz waste) excluded<br>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri">Allen:</font> <br>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri">The interpretation you relayed is consistent with EPA's and many state agencies' interpretation of RCRA.</font>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">EPA hazardous waste policy for many years has been that the exemption from hazardous waste requirements in 40 CFR 261.4(b)(1) for "household hazardous waste" applies throughout the waste management cycle. Briefly stated, "once
an exempt household hazardous waste, always an exempt household hazardous waste." Congress put the HHW exemption into RCRA so that the strict cradle to grave control and facility permitting requirements that apply to hazardous waste would not apply to the
occasional can of hair spray or rubbing alcohol that we all generate in our homes. The reason this interpretation is extended throughout the management cycle is that, without it, municipal solid waste facilities that receive small amounts of household hazardous
waste in the regular trash would all have to obtain RCRA Hazardous Waste Facility permits. EPA does encourage that HHW be sent to hazardous waste facilities as a best management practice, however. See the following summaries of EPA policy documents which
support this interpretation (click on the PDF icon to see the actual document):</font>
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<a href="http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/b2213cd1350031738525670f006c22bd!OpenDocument" target="_blank"><font color="blue" size="2" face="Calibri"><u>http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/b2213cd1350031738525670f006c22bd!OpenDocument</u></font></a>
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<a href="http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/2fd51915214ef63c8525670f006bdc88!OpenDocument" target="_blank"><font color="blue" size="2" face="Calibri"><u>http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/2fd51915214ef63c8525670f006bdc88!OpenDocument</u></font></a><font size="2" face="Calibri">
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<a href="http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/3b814bffdbb8f9a28525670f006bda2b!OpenDocument" target="_blank"><font color="blue" size="2" face="Calibri"><u>http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/3b814bffdbb8f9a28525670f006bda2b!OpenDocument</u></font></a>
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<a href="http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/f00b95651a8f5f358525670f006becde!OpenDocument" target="_blank"><font color="blue" size="2" face="Calibri"><u>http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/f00b95651a8f5f358525670f006becde!OpenDocument</u></font></a>
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<a href="http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/22fe8aa0ca59c99c8525693600683ce8!OpenDocument" target="_blank"><font color="blue" size="2" face="Calibri"><u>http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/22fe8aa0ca59c99c8525693600683ce8!OpenDocument</u></font></a>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">Here in CT, when we established our HHW collection system many years ago, we
<u>required</u> that operators of one-day collection events or permanent collection facilities manifest the waste off-site and send it to a permitted RCRA disposal facility. We did this because we had heard that in other states, waste collected at HHW collections
was merely hauled off to a solid waste disposal facility, making its careful collection and separation from the regular solid waste stream a pointless exercise, and we wanted to be sure that this didn't happen in CT.</font>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">I think pharmaceuticals might be a horse of a different color, however, than regular HHW. Because of their much smaller volume, and the ability (as expressed in my earlier emails) of municipal solid waste incinerators to safely
handle and destroy them, I think that a different approach might be environmentally justified. The cost savings may also allow much more material to be collected, thereby keeping it out of medicine cabinets and dumpsters where "pharming" of improperly secured
medications can take place. Of course, there would still have to be proper precautions for the security of the collected material until it is destroyed, to prevent exposure to solid waste facility handlers, and so forth. But, I'm not sure that full hazardous
waste requirements are necessary for this waste stream, and may even have a deterrent effect for collection programs.
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<font size="2" face="Calibri">--Ross Bunnell, Sanitary Engineer 3</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">CT Department of Environmental Protection (DEP)</font>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri">Bureau of Materials Management and Compliance Assurance</font>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri">Waste Engineering & Enforcement Division</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">Tel. 860.424.3274</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">Fax 860.424.4059</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">ross.bunnell@ct.gov</font> <br>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [</font><a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us"><font size="2" face="Calibri">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</font></a><font size="2" face="Calibri">] On Behalf Of Gilliam, Allen<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:45 AM<br>
To: 'Tenace, Laurie'; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Household pharms (even haz waste) excluded</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">How many of you have some major heartburn over this? "The following statement can be made about your household/residential (only) take-back programs' pharmaceuticals: 'House-hold pharmaceuticals collected through take-back programs
retains its residential hazardous waste exclusion from collection through final disposal even if disposal is by incineration.'"</font>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">This has recently been coerced out of our haz waste division "experts'" mouths and hopefully will make octomom look childless once our State Drug Director gets a full push going on with all the police agencies in the state. See</font>
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<a href="https://ardhs.sharepointsite.net/RX" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="Calibri">https://ardhs.sharepointsite.net/RX</font></a><font size="2" face="Calibri"> for more details.</font>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">This state's Office of the Drug Director is approaching take-back programs from the overdose/abuse viewpoint and seems to be outpacing the "save the environment" viewpoint by several laps BEGINNING with our law enforcement partners
taking the lead.</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri"> </font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Calibri">Who'd thunk?</font> <br>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri">Allen g</font> <br>
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