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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>In the Midwest, it looks like disposal varies state-to-state,
but there is some coordination going on between states where the logistics make
sense. In MN they are working with one of our statewide disposal
contractors for the non-CS and the pharms from all of the MN events will go the
same end facility. I believe there are 11 events scheduled in 6 counties.
The CS is likely going a different route, but we are still working like crazy to
get it all set up. DEA is paying for disposal for these events if the
participating counties use their contractor. There is not enough time to
set up multiple contractors, it was just simpler this way. There may be
other counties doing events to take advantage of the advertising, but I think
they are on their own for disposal, and they may choose different disposal options.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>DEA here has been very good to work with, probably because we
had already established a good working relationship. They have made
modifications to the standard protocol issued by HQ to allow more flexibility
in how pharms are managed on-site to help with event logistics/traffic flow and
to accommodate local sheriff’s policies on possession. A lot has
happened in the past 2 weeks to give me hope that we all (DEA, County sheriff, County
HHW, HW contractors, MPCA) will be able to pull this off with only minor upsets,
if any. The amount of time invested by each partner to get to this point has
been enormous. I am not sure how other states are managing to do this.
Good luck to us all!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vollmer,
Art, NMENV<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bunnell, Ross; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Goodyear, Richard, NMENV<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: National take-back program - what kind
ofincinerators?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>I can't take any credit for the air
analysis of the portable drug incinerators; that goes to Richard Goodyear of
NMED's Air Quality Bureau. I'm just a hazardous waste guy. Contact
Richard ( <a href="mailto:richard.goodyear@state.nm.us">richard.goodyear@state.nm.us</a>
) if you have any technical questions regarding his analysis.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>Does anyone know if there is a
coordinated plan for disposing of all the drugs to be collected during the
National Take-Back Day later this month? Is DEA collecting them all
or will each community dispose of them as they see fit?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Art Vollmer</span></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Compliance Program
Manager</span></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NMED Hazardous Waste
Bureau</span></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Phone: (505) 476-6004</span></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;
color:green'>P</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:green'> <span
class=grame>Please</span> consider the environment before printing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bunnell,
Ross<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> FW: [Pharmwaste] RE: National take-back program - what kind
ofincinerators?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have no doubt now (especially
after Art’s fine analysis) that portable incinerator units would not
qualify as major sources. However, I think it is also relevant to look at
worker exposure issues, here. Contrast these units to, say, a
trash-to-energy plant. The trash-to-energy plant’s emissions are
much larger, but this kind of plant also (typically) has a tall stack, a buffer
zone to the property line, and must meet certain air emissions standards at the
property line, all of which serve to prevent human exposure to pollutants that
may be in the emissions. The portable units, on the other hand, are (more
or less) at ground level, in the immediate vicinity of the workers that are
operating them and anyone else that may be hanging around (perhaps pregnant
moms and children at an event where they are “roasted” on the same
day their collected – hey, kids, bring yer marshmaller stix!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>All kidding aside, I’d be
more interested in worker exposure type monitoring of these units – e.g.,
whether they exceed any OSHA PELs or ACGIH TLVs when used to destroy
pharmaceuticals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>--Ross Bunnell, Sanitary Engineer 3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>CT Department of Environmental Protection (DEP)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bureau of Materials Management and Compliance Assurance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Waste Engineering & Enforcement Division<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tel. 860.424.3274<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Fax 860.424.4059<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ross.bunnell@ct.gov<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vollmer,
Art, NMENV<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 27, 2010 2:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pharmwaste<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: National take-back program - what kind
ofincinerators?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>New Mexico Environment Dept air quality folks had this take
on portable incinerators such as the Drug Terminator:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>Looking at the emissions from the
double chambered units (we do not have an adequate description of the unit to
assure that it is double chambered) that the NMPB wants to use, it is apparent
that even at 8760 hr/yr, that these units fall below permitting requirements.
There do not appear to be either NSPS or NESHAP requirements for this type of
unit that burn at this rate. We looked at 40 CFR 60, subparts Cb,
Ce, E, Ea, Eb, Ec, 4A, 4B, 4C, 4D, 4E, and 4F. While some of the combustion
components may be HAPs, they are unlikely to reach the 10 tons of one, or 25
tons combined that are required to be a major source. We are not aware of
area source requirements for drug burning units, although the NSPS does talk
about regulations applying to area sources.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>When looking at the potential
emissions, we selected to use AP-42 external combustion emission factors for
LPG, natural gas, and diesel. The Inciner8 uses fuel for both a gen set
and presumably for the burner but we do not know how fuel is partitioned between
the two, and do not have information of the horsepower of the
gensets. The genset is to run internal fans, we are guessing maybe
25 hp. For the diesel emissions, we calculated for No.2 and No. 6 diesel,
using the maximum manufacturer’s fuel consumption rate. We used
8760 hours per year. The rates for them are low for all emissions
(typically below a half ton per year) although if we assume the use of No. 6
diesel at 4% sulfur by weight, we get about 8.8 tpy emissions for SOx.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>We had to make more than a few
assumptions to determine waste loading. We have heard that about 1.5
drums of drugs were collected at a recent effort in Rio Rancho. We are
assuming 55 gallon drums. Assuming a 1.3 gm/cm3 weight for your average
pills, a full drum will have a net weight of 600 pounds. Assuming 100
drums (30 tons) are collected and burned annually, and using emission factors
from AP-42, 2.3 Medical Waste Incineration (7/93), the highest emission rate
will be for PM, about 140 pounds per year.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>There are two very important
caveats for these burners, however (even though they may not be
enforceable). The first is no burning of plastic containers, drugs
only. Plastics will emit dioxins and furans when burned. The second
is no burning of anything that could be considered infectious wastes –
used syringes or needles. In addition to this, the ash from burned
pharmaceuticals is considered a special waste by the SWB and must be controlled
and disposed of accordingly. So both used syringes/needles and pharm ash
needs to be disposed of according to SWB regulations. Syringes and
needles (used) may be considered hazardous waste.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>1) Would process efficiency as
measured by a conversion of volatile solids be required?<br>
NO. While this is not required, the equipment purchased to perform the
burning of pharmaceuticals should be operated according to manufacturer’s
instructions. Burning should not occur until the recommended burn
temperature is achieved. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>2) What would the design of
such units have to conform too, these are my ideas (applicable codes and
standards including but not limited to the American National Standards
Institute, local zoning, most recent applicable building code (international at
this point?), any local building codes, any others???? Are their incinerator
codes?<br>
We do not enforce other people’s codes, not ANSI, UPC, UEC, fire, zoning,
building, etc. There are incinerator regulations under the CAA but none
appear to apply to this situation at the present time. The NMED Air
Quality Bureau regulations, NMAC20.2.62 for municipal incinerators, and
NMAC20.2.63 for biomedical waste incinerators, do have guidelines for permitted
municipal and medical incinerators, but do not specifically mention the burning
of pharmaceuticals, and are not applicable to these units.<br>
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3) What applicable requirements, if any, would be necessary for
particulate matter or other emissions?<br>
The PM and other emissions for fuel burning are likely to be below permitting
levels. NMAC20.2.61 requires that the opacity level of the smoke plume
leaving the incinerator stack does not exceed 20%, but the applicability of
this regulation does not require a permit. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>4) Would setbacks from other
buildings or flue gassing be required?<br>
Since this type of incinerator will not require a permit, unless additional
information suggests it does, there are no air quality setbacks required.
However, there may be fire codes or local regulations requiring setbacks for
combustion units near buildings. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>5) If a mobile unit is used,
what would AQB require as far as permitting or registration?<br>
You mean portable; we don’t regulate mobile sources such as cars or
trains that emit while they move. At a minimum, a detailed No Permit
Required request needs to be filed for each type or model unit used, but not
for each and every unit. This request will have to provide information
about the size of the incinerator, the size of any generator set that is used
by the unit, operating temperature, type and rate of fuel use, anticipated size
of an average burn load, and number of burn loads per year. This will
allow the Air Quality Bureau to determine if this unit can operate without a
permit. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>6) If stationary, outside of
Bernalillo County, what would AQB require, for example plans, registration
fees, etc.?<br>
The Air Quality Bureau will require the same information as required for a
portable unit.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>7) Would AQB also be concerned
about the unregulated use of the Drug Terminator at police stations?<br>
Not at this time, due to their small size, but we encourage education about
burning plastics and the hazardous compounds that would result.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Art Vollmer</span></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Compliance Program
Manager</span></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NMED Hazardous Waste
Bureau</span></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Phone: (505) 476-6004</span></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;
color:green'>P</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:green'> <span
class=grame>Please</span> consider the environment before printing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gilliam, Allen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 27, 2010 11:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> pharmwaste<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: National take-back program - what kind
ofincinerators?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>no visible smoke, no particulate matter and a quick vortex
generating high heat incineration. yeh, I suppose it would fry
a mosquito or two flying directly over its exhaust.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>“Contraband or prohibited goods are exempt from the MSW NSPS
in 40 CFR 60.2887(p): Units that combust contraband or prohibited goods.
Your incineration unit is excluded if the unit is owned or operated by a
government agency such as police, customs, agricultural inspection, or a
similar agency to destroy only illegal or prohibited goods such as illegal
drugs, or agricultural food products that can not be transported into the
country or across State lines to prevent biocontamination. The exclusion does
not apply to items either confiscated or incinerated by private, industrial, or
commercial entities."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Once handed over to one our participating law enforcement agencies
or left in a secured drop box, un-used/expired meds are deemed
"contraband" quoted from one of our local police chiefs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>One of our air division's guru's stated, your police officer can
even take the box of pharmas out to your city's animal control incinerator
and toss it in.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>the unit looked at is Elastech's cyclonic drum "Drug
Terminator" @ <a href="http://www.u-p-i.com/drug_terminator.htm">http://www.u-p-i.com/drug_terminator.htm</a> .
They say over 2,000 law enforcement agencies around the country are
already using them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>And, yeh, to agree with Jack, "we're getting to the same place
so it doesn't matter what horse you're riding on". I TOTALLY
agree.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>As a caveat though, our Office of the Drug Director's
"Czar" has not signed off on the procurement of any of
these yet. Hopefully it's in their immediate plans. As of today,
excepting 3 other established "terminator" sites in the
state, the majority of the take-back contraband is hauled all the way to the
southern edge of the state to our only permitted haz waste incinerator, Clean
Harbors. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>The State's Office
of Drug Director's correspondence/request to ADEQ's director for
concurrence is "in the mail".</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>allen g </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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