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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=867370217-01092010><FONT color=#0000ff>I
can't take any credit for the air analysis of the portable drug incinerators;
that goes to Richard Goodyear of NMED's Air Quality Bureau. I'm just a
hazardous waste guy. Contact Richard ( <A
href="mailto:richard.goodyear@state.nm.us">richard.goodyear@state.nm.us</A> ) if
you have any technical questions regarding his analysis.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=867370217-01092010><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=867370217-01092010><FONT color=#0000ff>Does
anyone know if there is a coordinated plan for disposing of all the drugs to be
collected during the National Take-Back Day later this month? Is DEA
collecting them all or will each community dispose of them as they see
fit?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2><STRONG><EM>Art Vollmer</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2><STRONG><EM>Compliance Program
Manager</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2><STRONG><EM>NMED Hazardous Waste
Bureau</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2><STRONG><EM>Phone: (505)
476-6004</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Webdings; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 24pt">P</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <SPAN
class=GramE>Please</SPAN> consider the environment before printing.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bunnell,
Ross<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us'<BR><B>Subject:</B> FW: [Pharmwaste] RE:
National take-back program - what kind ofincinerators?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I have no doubt now (especially
after Art’s fine analysis) that portable incinerator units would not qualify as
major sources. However, I think it is also relevant to look at worker
exposure issues, here. Contrast these units to, say, a trash-to-energy
plant. The trash-to-energy plant’s emissions are much larger, but this
kind of plant also (typically) has a tall stack, a buffer zone to the property
line, and must meet certain air emissions standards at the property line, all of
which serve to prevent human exposure to pollutants that may be in the
emissions. The portable units, on the other hand, are (more or less) at
ground level, in the immediate vicinity of the workers that are operating them
and anyone else that may be hanging around (perhaps pregnant moms and children
at an event where they are “roasted” on the same day their collected – hey,
kids, bring yer marshmaller stix!).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">All kidding aside, I’d be more
interested in worker exposure type monitoring of these units – e.g., whether
they exceed any OSHA PELs or ACGIH TLVs when used to destroy
pharmaceuticals.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">--Ross
Bunnell, Sanitary Engineer 3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">CT
Department of Environmental Protection (DEP)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Bureau
of Materials Management and Compliance Assurance<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Waste
Engineering & Enforcement Division<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tel.
860.424.3274<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Fax
860.424.4059<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">ross.bunnell@ct.gov<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Vollmer,
Art, NMENV<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 27, 2010 2:33 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
pharmwaste<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: National take-back program -
what kind ofincinerators?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>New Mexico Environment Dept air quality folks had this take
on portable incinerators such as the Drug Terminator:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">Looking at the emissions from the
double chambered units (we do not have an adequate description of the unit to
assure that it is double chambered) that the NMPB wants to use, it is apparent
that even at 8760 hr/yr, that these units fall below permitting
requirements. There do not appear to be either NSPS or NESHAP requirements
for this type of unit that burn at this rate. We looked at 40 CFR 60,
subparts Cb, Ce, E, Ea, Eb, Ec, 4A, 4B, 4C, 4D, 4E, and 4F. While
some of the combustion components may be HAPs, they are unlikely to reach the 10
tons of one, or 25 tons combined that are required to be a major source.
We are not aware of area source requirements for drug burning units, although
the NSPS does talk about regulations applying to area
sources.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">When looking at the potential
emissions, we selected to use AP-42 external combustion emission factors for
LPG, natural gas, and diesel. The Inciner8 uses fuel for both a gen set
and presumably for the burner but we do not know how fuel is partitioned between
the two, and do not have information of the horsepower of the
gensets. The genset is to run internal fans, we are guessing maybe
25 hp. For the diesel emissions, we calculated for No.2 and No. 6 diesel,
using the maximum manufacturer’s fuel consumption rate. We used 8760 hours
per year. The rates for them are low for all emissions (typically below a
half ton per year) although if we assume the use of No. 6 diesel at 4% sulfur by
weight, we get about 8.8 tpy emissions for SOx.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">We had to make more than a few
assumptions to determine waste loading. We have heard that about 1.5 drums
of drugs were collected at a recent effort in Rio Rancho. We are assuming
55 gallon drums. Assuming a 1.3 gm/cm3 weight for your average pills, a
full drum will have a net weight of 600 pounds. Assuming 100 drums (30
tons) are collected and burned annually, and using emission factors from AP-42,
2.3 Medical Waste Incineration (7/93), the highest emission rate will be for PM,
about 140 pounds per year.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">There are two very important
caveats for these burners, however (even though they may not be
enforceable). The first is no burning of plastic containers, drugs
only. Plastics will emit dioxins and furans when burned. The second
is no burning of anything that could be considered infectious wastes – used
syringes or needles. In addition to this, the ash from burned
pharmaceuticals is considered a special waste by the SWB and must be controlled
and disposed of accordingly. So both used syringes/needles and pharm ash
needs to be disposed of according to SWB regulations. Syringes and needles
(used) may be considered hazardous waste.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">1) Would process efficiency as
measured by a conversion of volatile solids be required?<BR>NO. While this
is not required, the equipment purchased to perform the burning of
pharmaceuticals should be operated according to manufacturer’s
instructions. Burning should not occur until the recommended burn
temperature is achieved. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">2) What would the design of
such units have to conform too, these are my ideas (applicable codes and
standards including but not limited to the American National Standards
Institute, local zoning, most recent applicable building code (international at
this point?), any local building codes, any others???? Are their incinerator
codes?<BR>We do not enforce other people’s codes, not ANSI, UPC, UEC, fire,
zoning, building, etc. There are incinerator regulations under the CAA but
none appear to apply to this situation at the present time. The NMED Air
Quality Bureau regulations, NMAC20.2.62 for municipal incinerators, and
NMAC20.2.63 for biomedical waste incinerators, do have guidelines for permitted
municipal and medical incinerators, but do not specifically mention the burning
of pharmaceuticals, and are not applicable to these
units.<BR> <BR>3) What applicable requirements, if any, would be
necessary for particulate matter or other emissions?<BR>The PM and other
emissions for fuel burning are likely to be below permitting levels.
NMAC20.2.61 requires that the opacity level of the smoke plume leaving the
incinerator stack does not exceed 20%, but the applicability of this regulation
does not require a permit. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">4) Would setbacks from other
buildings or flue gassing be required?<BR>Since this type of incinerator will
not require a permit, unless additional information suggests it does, there are
no air quality setbacks required. However, there may be fire codes or
local regulations requiring setbacks for combustion units near buildings.
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">5) If a mobile unit is used,
what would AQB require as far as permitting or registration?<BR>You mean
portable; we don’t regulate mobile sources such as cars or trains that emit
while they move. At a minimum, a detailed No Permit Required request needs
to be filed for each type or model unit used, but not for each and every
unit. This request will have to provide information about the size of the
incinerator, the size of any generator set that is used by the unit, operating
temperature, type and rate of fuel use, anticipated size of an average burn
load, and number of burn loads per year. This will allow the Air Quality
Bureau to determine if this unit can operate without a permit.
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">6) If stationary, outside of
Bernalillo County, what would AQB require, for example plans, registration fees,
etc.?<BR>The Air Quality Bureau will require the same information as required
for a portable unit.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">7) Would AQB also be concerned
about the unregulated use of the Drug Terminator at police stations?<BR>Not at
this time, due to their small size, but we encourage education about burning
plastics and the hazardous compounds that would result.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><EM><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Art
Vollmer</SPAN></B></EM><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><EM><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Compliance Program
Manager</SPAN></B></EM><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><EM><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">NMED Hazardous Waste
Bureau</SPAN></B></EM><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><EM><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Phone: (505)
476-6004</SPAN></B></EM><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Webdings; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 24pt">P</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <SPAN
class=grame>Please</SPAN> consider the environment before
printing.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Gilliam,
Allen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 27, 2010 11:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
pharmwaste<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: National take-back program -
what kind ofincinerators?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">no
visible smoke, no particulate matter and a quick vortex generating high
heat incineration. yeh, I suppose it would fry a mosquito or two
flying directly over its exhaust.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">“Contraband
or prohibited goods are exempt from the MSW NSPS in 40 CFR 60.2887(p):
Units that combust contraband or prohibited goods. Your incineration unit is
excluded if the unit is owned or operated by a government agency such as police,
customs, agricultural inspection, or a similar agency to destroy only illegal or
prohibited goods such as illegal drugs, or agricultural food products that can
not be transported into the country or across State lines to prevent
biocontamination. The exclusion does not apply to items either confiscated or
incinerated by private, industrial, or commercial
entities."</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Once
handed over to one our participating law enforcement agencies or left in
a secured drop box, un-used/expired meds are deemed "contraband" quoted
from one of our local police chiefs.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">One of
our air division's guru's stated, your police officer can even take the box
of pharmas out to your city's animal control incinerator and toss it
in.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">the unit
looked at is Elastech's cyclonic drum "Drug Terminator" @ <A
href="http://www.u-p-i.com/drug_terminator.htm">http://www.u-p-i.com/drug_terminator.htm</A> .
They say over 2,000 law enforcement agencies around the country are already
using them.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">And,
yeh, to agree with Jack, "we're getting to the same place so it doesn't matter
what horse you're riding on". I TOTALLY
agree.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">As a
caveat though, our Office of the Drug Director's "Czar" has not signed off
on the procurement of any of these yet. Hopefully it's in their
immediate plans. As of today, excepting 3 other established
"terminator" sites in the state, the majority of the take-back contraband
is hauled all the way to the southern edge of the state to our only permitted
haz waste incinerator, Clean Harbors. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The
State's Office of Drug Director's correspondence/request to
ADEQ's director for concurrence is "in the mail".</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">allen
g </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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