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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span>New Mexico Environment Dept air quality folks had this take on portable incinerators such as the Drug Terminator:</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">Looking at the emissions from the double chambered units (we do not have an adequate description of the unit to assure that it is double chambered) that the NMPB wants to use, it is apparent that even at 8760 hr/yr, that these units fall below permitting requirements. There do not appear to be either NSPS or NESHAP requirements for this type of unit that burn at this rate. We looked at 40 CFR 60, subparts Cb, Ce, E, Ea, Eb, Ec, 4A, 4B, 4C, 4D, 4E, and 4F. While some of the combustion components may be HAPs, they are unlikely to reach the 10 tons of one, or 25 tons combined that are required to be a major source. We are not aware of area source requirements for drug burning units, although the NSPS does talk about regulations applying to area sources.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">When looking at the potential emissions, we selected to use AP-42 external combustion emission factors for LPG, natural gas, and diesel. The Inciner8 uses fuel for both a gen set and presumably for the burner but we do not know how fuel is partitioned between the two, and do not have information of the horsepower of the gensets. The genset is to run internal fans, we are guessing maybe 25 hp. For the diesel emissions, we calculated for No.2 and No. 6 diesel, using the maximum manufacturer’s fuel consumption rate. We used 8760 hours per year. The rates for them are low for all emissions (typically below a half ton per year) although if we assume the use of No. 6 diesel at 4% sulfur by weight, we get about 8.8 tpy emissions for SOx.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">We had to make more than a few assumptions to determine waste loading. We have heard that about 1.5 drums of drugs were collected at a recent effort in Rio Rancho. We are assuming 55 gallon drums. Assuming a 1.3 gm/cm3 weight for your average pills, a full drum will have a net weight of 600 pounds. Assuming 100 drums (30 tons) are collected and burned annually, and using emission factors from AP-42, 2.3 Medical Waste Incineration (7/93), the highest emission rate will be for PM, about 140 pounds per year.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">There are two very important caveats for these burners, however (even though they may not be enforceable). The first is no burning of plastic containers, drugs only. Plastics will emit dioxins and furans when burned. The second is no burning of anything that could be considered infectious wastes – used syringes or needles. In addition to this, the ash from burned pharmaceuticals is considered a special waste by the SWB and must be controlled and disposed of accordingly. So both used syringes/needles and pharm ash needs to be disposed of according to SWB regulations. Syringes and needles (used) may be considered hazardous waste.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">1) Would process efficiency as measured by a conversion of volatile solids be required?<br>NO. While this is not required, the equipment purchased to perform the burning of pharmaceuticals should be operated according to manufacturer’s instructions. Burning should not occur until the recommended burn temperature is achieved. </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">2) What would the design of such units have to conform too, these are my ideas (applicable codes and standards including but not limited to the American National Standards Institute, local zoning, most recent applicable building code (international at this point?), any local building codes, any others???? Are their incinerator codes?<br>
We do not enforce other people’s codes, not ANSI, UPC, UEC, fire, zoning, building, etc. There are incinerator regulations under the CAA but none appear to apply to this situation at the present time. The NMED Air Quality Bureau regulations, NMAC20.2.62 for municipal incinerators, and NMAC20.2.63 for biomedical waste incinerators, do have guidelines for permitted municipal and medical incinerators, but do not specifically mention the burning of pharmaceuticals, and are not applicable to these units.<br>
<br>3) What applicable requirements, if any, would be necessary for particulate matter or other emissions?<br>The PM and other emissions for fuel burning are likely to be below permitting levels. NMAC20.2.61 requires that the opacity level of the smoke plume leaving the incinerator stack does not exceed 20%, but the applicability of this regulation does not require a permit. </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">4) Would setbacks from other buildings or flue gassing be required?<br>Since this type of incinerator will not require a permit, unless additional information suggests it does, there are no air quality setbacks required. However, there may be fire codes or local regulations requiring setbacks for combustion units near buildings. </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">5) If a mobile unit is used, what would AQB require as far as permitting or registration?<br>You mean portable; we don’t regulate mobile sources such as cars or trains that emit while they move. At a minimum, a detailed No Permit Required request needs to be filed for each type or model unit used, but not for each and every unit. This request will have to provide information about the size of the incinerator, the size of any generator set that is used by the unit, operating temperature, type and rate of fuel use, anticipated size of an average burn load, and number of burn loads per year. This will allow the Air Quality Bureau to determine if this unit can operate without a permit. </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">6) If stationary, outside of Bernalillo County, what would AQB require, for example plans, registration fees, etc.?<br>The Air Quality Bureau will require the same information as required for a portable unit.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff">7) Would AQB also be concerned about the unregulated use of the Drug Terminator at police stations?<br>Not at this time, due to their small size, but we encourage education about burning plastics and the hazardous compounds that would result.<br>
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</div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 27, 2010 11:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> pharmwaste<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: National take-back program - what kind ofincinerators?<br></font><br></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">no visible smoke, no particulate matter and a quick vortex generating high heat incineration. yeh, I suppose it would fry a mosquito or two flying directly over its exhaust.</font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">“Contraband or prohibited goods<span> </span>are exempt from the </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">MSW</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> NSPS in 40 </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">CFR</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> 60.2887(p):<span> </span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Units that combust contraband or prohibited goods. Your incineration unit is excluded if the unit is owned or operated by a government agency such as police, customs, agricultural inspection, or a similar agency to destroy only illegal or prohibited goods such as illegal drugs, or agricultural food products that can not be transported into the country or across State lines to prevent biocontamination. The exclusion does not apply to items either confiscated or incinerated by private, industrial, or commercial entities.<span>"</span></span></font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span>Once handed over to one our participating law enforcement agencies or left in a secured drop box, un-used/expired meds are deemed "contraband" quoted from one of our local police chiefs.</span></span></font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span>One of our air division's guru's stated, your police officer can even take the box of pharmas out to your city's animal control incinerator and toss it in.</span></span></font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span>the unit</span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span> looked at is Elastech's cyclonic drum "Drug Terminator" @ <a href="http://www.u-p-i.com/drug_terminator.htm" target="_blank">http://www.u-p-i.com/drug_terminator.htm</a> . They say over 2,000 law enforcement agencies around the country are already using them.</span></span></font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span>And, yeh, to agree with Jack, "we're getting to the same place so it doesn't matter what horse you're riding on". I TOTALLY agree.</span></span></font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span>As a caveat though, our Office of the Drug Director's "Czar" has not signed off on the procurement of any of these yet. Hopefully it's in their immediate plans. As of today, excepting 3 other established "terminator" sites in the state, the majority of the take-back contraband is hauled all the way to the southern edge of the state to our only permitted haz waste incinerator, Clean Harbors. </span></span></font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span>The State's Office of Drug Director's correspondence/request to ADEQ's director for concurrence is "in the mail".</span></span></font></span></div>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stevan Gressitt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 26, 2010 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> pharmwaste<br><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: [Pharmwaste] RE: National take-back program - what kind of incinerators?<br><br></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">It sounds like the program will be using portable incineration units. Can you provide any details like brand, model? Does “scattering mobile incinerators around the state” give any of your air reg people heartburn (it would to ours!)? </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">We found the same thing in FL: Diversion trumps environment. The last pharm take back bill proposed in FL was about diversion first with an environmental footnote. But that’s OK – it gets us to the same place so it doesn’t matter what horse we ride.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gilliam, Allen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] National take-back program</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Currently working with this group to help make Arkansas one of the top take-back states in the country (gotcha beat, Gressitt!) . 142 law enforcement agencies signed on as of today. Will hopefully be looking at scattering incinerator units throughout the state.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">See below short TV clip with our "Drug Czar", Fran Flener talking about the national take-back day on 9/25. Talk about an organizer!</span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">It took, what Nancy? 8 months to get your take back program started, focusing on the environmental protection? It took less than 2 months for this statewide campaign to begin rolling focusing on drug diversion.</span></p>
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<div>Stevan Gressitt, M.D.<br>Faculty Associate, University of Maine Center on Aging<br>Academic Member, Athens Institute for Education and Research</div>
<div>Athens, Greece</div>
<div>Founding Director, Institute for Medicine Safety<br>University of New England, College of Pharmacy<br>Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences <br>Associate Professor of Clinical Psychiatry<br>University of New England, College of Osteopathic Medicine<br>
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