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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just a bit of interesting info on burning foam. I had the opportunity to view, under a microscope, a scraping of lung tissue from someone who died in the plane crash that killed Ricky Nelson (the investigator would not confirm that it was actually his). Anyway, it was obvious that this person had a miserable few last breaths from the amount of black soot that covered their cells. Not a good way to go. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fredrick L. Miller<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 22, 2011 9:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> Stevan Gressitt<br><b>Cc:</b> pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: Foam Alone: Do Furniture Flame Retardants SaveEnoughLives to Justify Their Environmental Damage?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good question, Dr. Gressitt, and thanks for the catch. Since I haven’t actually done any calculations, I would like to retract “far greater risk” and substitute in its place “unknown risk.” I don’t want to be guilty of the same tactics that so irk me when employed by others. I should always have someone proofread my correspondence before hitting “send” when I’m feeling peevish.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fred<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Stevan Gressitt [mailto:gressitt@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> Fredrick L. Miller<br><b>Cc:</b> pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pharmwaste] RE: Foam Alone: Do Furniture Flame Retardants Save EnoughLives to Justify Their Environmental Damage?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Relative risk? Who offers a calculation?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Fredrick L. Miller <<a href="mailto:millerfl@tricity.wsu.edu">millerfl@tricity.wsu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222'>“Susan Lundy, a spokesperson for Albemarle, who herself was nearly burned as a child when her pajamas caught fire, says there's no question. "You ask people who lose their children in fires, 'Do they think it's valuable to have flame retardants in there?' I promise you, they would say, 'Yes.'”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222'>Oh, the children. Well, that ends it. There can be no further rational debate. The issue dies there. Wave the bloody rag and terrify the uneducated masses. The chemical peddlers win. They played the “children” card first. Nevermind the children are at far greater risk from exposure to the chemicals. It’s much easier to paint a mental picture of children burning and disfigured for life. After all, if need be they can always dig up the picture of the little girl from Vietnam running naked with the last few rags of her clothing in flames from a napalm attack. It’s real hard to conjure up such a viscerally impacting image of the damage done by endocrine disruptors and carcinogens.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222'>Fred Miller</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222'>Washington State University</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222'>College of Pharmacy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>DeBiasi, Deborah (DEQ)<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] Foam Alone: Do Furniture Flame Retardants Save EnoughLives to Justify Their Environmental Damage? </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=do-furniture-flame-retardants-save-enough-lives-justify-environmental-damage&print=true" target="_blank">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=do-furniture-flame-retardants-save-enough-lives-justify-environmental-damage</a><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#222222'>Permanent Address:</span><span lang=EN> </span><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=do-furniture-flame-retardants-save-enough-lives-justify-environmental-damage" target="_blank"><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#222222'>http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=do-furniture-flame-retardants-save-enough-lives-justify-environmental-damage</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#222222'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span lang=EN style='font-size:36.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222'>Foam Alone: Do Furniture Flame Retardants Save Enough Lives to Justify Their Environmental Damage? </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#222222'>An obscure California law effectively sets flammability standards for foam in the nation's furniture, but proposed new legislation claims flame retardants don't prevent fires and could have negative health impacts</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#222222'>By</span><span lang=EN> </span><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/author.cfm?id=1645" target="_blank"><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#19437C'>Erik Vance</span></a><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#222222'> | Monday, April 18, 2011</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>---<br>Note: As a courtesy to other listserv subscribers, please post messages to the listserv in plain text format to avoid the garbling of messages received by digest recipients.<br>---<br>TO SUBSCRIBE, go to: <a href="http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharmwaste" target="_blank">http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharmwaste</a><br>TO UNSUBSCRIBE, DO NOT REPLY TO THE LISTSERV. Please send an e-mail to <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-unsubscribe@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-unsubscribe@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> -- the subject line and body of the e-mail should be blank.<br>If you believe you may be subscribed with a different email address, please visit the subscriber listing at <a href="http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/pharmwaste" target="_blank">http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/pharmwaste</a><br>FOR PROBLEMS: Contact List Administrator <a href="mailto:Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us">Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us</a><br>SEND MAIL to the list server at: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Stevan Gressitt, M.D.<br>Faculty Associate, University of Maine Center on Aging<br>Academic Member, Athens Institute for Education and Research<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Athens, Greece<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Founding Director, International Institute for Pharmaceutical Safety<br>University of New England, College of Pharmacy<br>Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences <br>Associate Professor of Clinical Psychiatry<br>University of New England, College of Osteopathic Medicine<br>716 Stevens Avenue <br>Portland, Maine 04103<br><a href="mailto:gressitt@gmail.com" target="_blank">gressitt@gmail.com</a> <br>Cell: 207-441-0291 <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.benzos.une.edu/" target="_blank">www.benzos.une.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><a href="http://www.safemeddisposal.com/" target="_blank">www.safemeddisposal.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>