I'm always puzzled when us "rural folks" get left behind. And for rural dwellers, mail-back seems to be the way to address the problem though.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Gabriel, Fred A <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gabriel.fred@cleanharbors.com">gabriel.fred@cleanharbors.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Victoria</span></font>,</p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Doesn’t your comment "…pending federal legislation to take care of pharmaceuticals in another way (such as requiring pharmacies to develop programs for counties of 10,000
or more)" come from H.R. 2939? This is the Pharmaceutical Stewardship Act of 2011 introduced by Rep. Slaughter of NY on September 15, 2011. This is obviously not DEA pending legislation; however, this bill does have a requirement of accessibility which reads
(i) “at least one collection site in every county of every State and one collection site in every city with a population of more than 10,000 individuals on an ongoing, year-round basis; or”</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-2939" target="_blank">http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-2939</a></span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Fred Gabriel
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Email: <a href="mailto:gabriel.fred@cleanharbors.com" target="_blank">gabriel.fred@cleanharbors.com</a>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Zimmer, Catherine (PSC) [mailto:<a href="mailto:Catherine.Zimmer@pscnow.com" target="_blank">Catherine.Zimmer@pscnow.com</a>] <br>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:54 PM<br>
To: Vickie Davis; Ed Gottlieb; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br>
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] DEA Spring Collection April 28th</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Hi Victoria,</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I'm curious about where we might get more info on DEA's pending legislation. Thanks!</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Very truly yours,</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Catherine Zimmer, MS, BSMT</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Industry Leader, Caring for the Environment</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Office: <a href="tel:651.645.7509" value="+16516457509" target="_blank">651.645.7509</a></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Mobile</span></font>: <a href="tel:713.829.6365" value="+17138296365" target="_blank">713.829.6365</a></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="http://www.pscnow.com" target="_blank">www.pscnow.com</a></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:Catherine.zimmer@pscnow.com" target="_blank">Catherine.zimmer@pscnow.com</a></span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] On Behalf Of Vickie Davis</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:15 PM</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">To: Ed Gottlieb; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] DEA Spring Collection April 28th</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Hi Ed,</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">We started our unwanted medicine collections the year DEA started theirs and coincidentally they selected a Saturday we had already chosen and advertised. Unfortunately,
our hours were 9 - noon and theirs were 10 to something. I asked if there was any flexibility and they said "no."
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I also heard from a seemingly reliable source that this April's collection will be the last DEA collection due to pending federal legislation to take care of pharmaceuticals
in another way (such as requiring pharmacies to develop programs for counties of 10,000 or more), but we'll see.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Victoria Davis</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Upper</span></font>
Valley Lake Sunapee Regional Planning Commission</p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">10 Water Street, Suite 225</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Lebanon</span></font>,
NH 03766</p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] On Behalf Of Ed Gottlieb [<a href="mailto:egottlieb@cityofithaca.org" target="_blank">egottlieb@cityofithaca.org</a>]</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:56 AM</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">To: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Subject: [Pharmwaste] DEA Spring Collection April 28th</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Some time ago, the DEA announced their Spring collection event, part of their National Take Back Initiative.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drug_disposal/takeback/" target="_blank">http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drug_disposal/takeback/</a></span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">This web page says, "Please check back in March to locate collection sites near you." I've been checking back every day hoping to find information on how to sign up.
If the DEA expects to know who is participating by March, it seemed to me that sign-up should begin soon. Made some phone calls to DEA as well (which I don't recommend doing unless you have a reliable contact there or it's absolutely necessary.)</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">The DEA just added some information to that web page:</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">"Law Enforcement Agencies Only: For law enforcement agencies that wish to host a collection site please cal the POC in your area."</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">A link is provided to a table of Point of Contact persons for each state.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I was able to learn, through phone inquiries, that the sign-up form will go live only 6 or 7 weeks ahead of the event. The agent I spoke with will be sending a suggestion
to DEC HQ that they change "March" to "April" in, "Please check back in March to locate collection sites near you."</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">That agent also took my request that one of our counties planned collection sites be allowed to extend the hours of operation from 10-2 to 9-3 (the hours of our previous
events.) I also requested that the DEA pick-up collected material later in the afternoon to allow us time to do some inventory data collection. Finally, I asked that some collection locations be allowed to deliver their material (with proper chain of custody
transfer) to our central collection. I was told there is precedent for this gathering material from multiple sites to one location for DEA pick-up. Our hope is we would have time to inventoried the controlled substances from those sites as well. I'll send
out an update with their reply, once it's received.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">If the DEA is totally inflexible, our group will face a tough choice.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">1. Join the DEA program and inventory only at our central location. We might have to stop the inventory process once the DEA arrives to collect the material.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">2. Hold our collections on the same day (which we picked before the DEA announced their date) and get permits, as we have in the past, through the NYS DOH Bureau of Narcotic
Enforcement and the NYS DEC. Unlike the easy DEA registration process, state permitting requires significant effort. We could then inventory as planned.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Ed Gottlieb</span></font></p>
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