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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For many years the website <a href="http://ourstolenfuture.org/">http://ourstolenfuture.org/</a>
has been a source for updated information relevant to this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Rick Reibstein<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Manager, Outreach and Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Office of Technical Assistance and Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Executive Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Commonwealth of Massachusetts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>100 Cambridge St., 9th Floor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Boston, MA 02114<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>617 626 1062<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tenace,
Laurie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] Our Stolen Future - good book about endocrine
disruptors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Please note
that this email originated with Chen Wen at EPA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I’ll also vouch
for this book. Thanks for reminding us. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Laurie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>For folks who
are interested in learning more about endocrine disruptors, an excellent book
is "Our Stolen Future" by Theo Colborn. Ms. Colborn wrote the book
many years ago, and was among the first to identify the potential dangers of
endocrine disruptors, and the notion that sometimes it is not the dose, but the
bio-availability of a partucilar substance - that makes the poison. </span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Chen H. Wen<br>
Office of Prevention, Pesticides and Toxics<br>
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency<br>
202-564-8849 (ph)<br>
202-564-8899 (fx)<br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>-----
Forwarded by Chen Wen/DC/USEPA/US on 07/26/2012 03:49 PM -----</span><br>
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<span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From:
</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:pharmwaste-request@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-request@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></span><br>
<span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To:
</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></span><br>
<span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date:
</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>07/26/2012
03:27 PM</span><br>
<span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject:
</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Pharmwaste
Digest, Vol 81, Issue 10</span><br>
<span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Sent
by: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<tt>than "Re: Contents of Pharmwaste digest..."</tt><br>
<tt>Today's Topics:</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>1. RE: What's in the Water We Drink - long article about DC's</tt><br>
<tt>water (Miller, Christine M.)</tt><br>
<tt>2. RE: What's in the Water We Drink - long article about DC's</tt><br>
<tt>water (Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA))</tt><br>
<tt>3. FW: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article</tt><br>
<tt>about DC's water (Bunnell, Ross)</tt><br>
<tt>4. RE: What's in the Water We Drink - long article about DC's</tt><br>
<tt>water (Jim Mullowney)</tt><br>
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----- Message from "Miller, Christine M." <<a
href="mailto:Chris.Miller@outagamie.org">Chris.Miller@outagamie.org</a>> on
Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:28:59 +0000 -----</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>"Fredrick L. Miller"
<<a href="mailto:millerfl@tricity.wsu.edu">millerfl@tricity.wsu.edu</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>"
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>RE: [Pharmwaste] What's in the
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Amen!
</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
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<tt>Christine Miller l Recycling Coordinator</tt><br>
<tt>1419 Holland Rd. l Appleton, WI 54911</tt><br>
<tt>Phone: 920-968-5721 l Fax: 920-788-4130</tt><br>
<tt><a href="http://www.RecycleMoreOutagamie.org">www.RecycleMoreOutagamie.org</a>
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<tt>-----Original Message-----</tt><br>
<tt>From: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>
[<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>]
On Behalf Of Fredrick L. Miller</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:26 PM</tt><br>
<tt>To: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about
DC's water</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>"evidence suggests that the same contaminants that caused massive fish
kills and deformities in recent years are linked to increases in obesity,
diabetes, autism, cancer, and other disorders-and that medications and products
we use every day might contribute to the problem"</tt><br>
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<tt>I'm hoping someone way smarter than me in the field of toxicology can help
me with a question.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>We've heard since the time of Paracelsus "the dose makes the
poison" yet we accept statements such as the one above at face value. How
is it consuming such dilute levels of substances can cause all these ills while
consuming much higher concentrations is considered therapeutic? Shouldn't we be
much more concerned about consuming and applying the prescriptions, potions,
lotions, and neat substances in full strength? After all, that "witch's
brew" comes from our home to begin with. We dose ourselves there with
little to no regard for interaction. There is no agency watching out for our
safety when it comes to considering what happens when we mix our medications
with our shampoos, perfumes, household cleaners, plasticizers, fuels, etc. in
the home yet we're all wrapped around the axle about a few PPT of the stuff in
our drinking water. Isn't that a bit like having our cart before our horse?</tt><br>
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<tt>Fred</tt><br>
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<tt>P.s. I get that the fish and frogs can't protect themselves but using the
drinking water concentrations as the lead-off for the story just strikes me as
sensationalism and fearmongering.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>-----Original Message-----</tt><br>
<tt>From: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>
[<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>]
On Behalf Of Tenace, Laurie</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:57 AM</tt><br>
<tt>To: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about
DC's water</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Much more at the link.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt><a
href="http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/whats-in-the-water-we-drink-2/">http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/whats-in-the-water-we-drink-2/</a></tt><br>
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<tt>Washington's tap water, most of which comes from the Potomac River, meets
or exceeds federal water-quality standards. But new pollutants have emerged
that are not removed by current water-purification technology. Evidence
suggests that the same contaminants that caused massive fish kills and
deformities in recent years are linked to increases in obesity, diabetes,
autism, cancer, and other disorders-and that medications and products we use
every day might contribute to the problem.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Of all the natural resources in the Washington area, none is more important
than the potomac river. Besides the beauty and recreation it provides, the area
pulls nearly 400 million gallons of water a day out of it-about 90 percent of
our drinking water.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>In some ways, the Potomac is cleaner today than it was 40 or 50 years ago.
Back then, people were warned not to swim in the river or eat fish from it; a
tetanus vaccination was recommended for anyone who did swim there. On many
days, you could smell the Potomac before you saw it.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Improvements in wastewater treatment and conservation upgraded the water
quality of the river, which wends its way nearly 500 miles from its origin in
the Appalachian Plateau to Point Lookout, Maryland, where it empties into the
Chesapeake Bay. These efforts helped reduce major pollutants-such as nitrogen
and phosphorous from fertilizers, pesticides, and soaps-that fed algae,
rootless plant-like organisms that grow in sunlit water. Algae blooms-rapid
accumulations of microscopic algae in water that can stretch for miles-deplete
the water of oxygen and release harmful toxins. They can virtually destroy a river
if left to grow unchecked.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Despite this progress, the river is not "clean." In 2011, the
Potomac Conservancy, an organization that monitors the river, gave the Potomac
a grade of D, a drop from the D-plus the organization assigned it in 2007. The
conservancy noted that more than a third of the estimated 10,000 stream miles
in the Potomac watershed are threatened or impaired.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Even so, the drinking water in the Washington area is closely monitored and
meets or exceeds every Environmental Protection Agency water-quality standard.
But as some of the old pollutants have been removed from the river, new ones
have emerged that are not removed by current technology and may be harmful to
human health, especially for the very young.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This emerging class of contaminants, called endocrine-disrupting compounds
(EDCs), a variety of natural and manmade chemicals from many sources, first
came to light in a dramatic way in the summer and fall of 2002 with massive
fish kills along the south branch of the Potomac River in West Virginia, about
200 miles upstream from DC. Some of the contaminants are new, and others have
been discovered recently because new measuring techniques permit scientists to
identify EDCs in minute quantities.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Says Luke Iwanowicz, a scientist with the US Geological Survey: "Many
of these emerging contaminants have been off our radar until now, mostly
because we did not have the ability to detect them."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Jeff Kelble ran a fishing-guide business on the Shenandoah River, long
considered one of the nation's great fishing rivers, especially for smallmouth
bass. The Shenandoah empties into the Potomac at Harpers Ferry, West Virginia.
Kelble remembers when fish were so plentiful that they fought over his lures-it
wasn't uncommon for the sport fishermen he guided to catch 50 to 60 fish in a
day, all of which Kelble released back into the river.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>That changed in the last week of March 2004, when Kelble learned that fish
kills had struck the north fork of the Shenandoah. From his boat, when the
murky spring water was clear enough, Kelble could see redbreast sunfish and
smallmouth bass lying motionless on the riverbed.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble didn't know what to make of the scene. Had a poison been dumped into
the river? Was this fish kill related to the kills that had struck the south
branch of the Potomac in 2002 and 2003? Had a large quantity of milk somehow
found its way into the water from dairy farms along the riverbank? Milk has a
voracious appetite for oxygen and might have robbed the river of enough to kill
the fish, but when the river's oxygen levels were measured, they were normal.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble tried catching fish but had little luck. Finally, he hooked a
smallmouth bass.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>"We were excited at first," Kelble says, "but when we lifted
the fish out of the water, we saw it was covered with red sores that looked
like cigar burns, and it had lost many of its scales. I'd never seen anything
like it. I have an engineering degree-I'm not a biologist-and I had no idea
what was wrong. We caught a few other fish, and almost all had similar sores on
them." Kelble caught more fish. "Between 50 and 60 percent of the
fish had lesions," he says.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble, now a conservationist with Potomac Riverkeeper-a nonprofit that
monitors river quality throughout the four-state Potomac watershed-estimates
that in 2004 and 2005, 80 percent of the adult smallmouth-bass population was
wiped out in the Shenandoah River. The bass are back, Kelble says, but he still
sees sick fish.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Vicki Blazer, a fish pathologist with the US Geological Survey (USGS), had
the job of finding the cause of the fish kills. Working out of Kearneysville,
West Virginia, Blazer led a team onto the rivers to collect dead and dying
fish. Electroshocks in the water stunned the fish and brought them to the
surface, where Blazer's group netted them and put them into water buckets to
which an anesthetic was added.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>As Blazer dissected scores of smallmouth bass, she was surprised to find
that many of the males had characteristics of both sexes. Some 80 percent of
the male fish had oocytes-precursors of egg cells produced by females-in their
testes, a condition known as intersex.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Intersex among some species of fish is not unheard of but, Blazer says,
"you just don't see this intersex phenomenon with bass."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Ed Merrifield, president of Potomac Riverkeeper, calls the river fish kills
"the canary in the coal mine."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Our region is not alone. Fish die-offs have been reported in waterways
throughout the United States. Last September, thousands of white bass died in
the Arkansas River with no clear explanation. Beginning in 2008, fish kills and
fish with lesions were seen in the upper James River, and lesions were seen on
the Jackson and Cowpasture rivers in Virginia as well. Intersex fish also have
turned up in the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River.</tt><br>
<br>
<br>
<tt>Laurie Tenace</tt><br>
<tt>Environmental Specialist III</tt><br>
<tt>Waste Reduction Section</tt><br>
<tt>Florida Department of Environmental Protection</tt><br>
<tt>2600 Blair Stone Rd., MS 4555</tt><br>
<tt>Tallahassee FL 32399-2400</tt><br>
<tt>P: 850.245.8759</tt><br>
<tt>F: 850.245.8811</tt><br>
<tt><a href="mailto:Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us">Laurie.Tenace@dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Mercury: <a
href="http://www.dep.state.fl.us/waste/categories/mercury/default.htm">http://www.dep.state.fl.us/waste/categories/mercury/default.htm</a></tt><br>
<tt>Batteries: <a
href="http://www.dep.state.fl.us/waste/categories/batteries/default.htm">http://www.dep.state.fl.us/waste/categories/batteries/default.htm</a></tt><br>
<tt>Pharmaceuticals: <a href="http://www.dep.state.fl.us/waste/pharm/">http://www.dep.state.fl.us/waste/pharm/</a></tt><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>RE: [Pharmwaste] What's in the
Water We Drink - long article about DC's water<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I
agree it is difficult to make sense of all of this, without freaking people out
or having them just get bored reading about parts per bazillion of
expialidocious. I've been in the HHW program for 17 years and I have to say
that the pharms studies finally got to me, along with studies of ingredients in
personal care products. I have finally made changes, taking far less OTC pain
relievers, refusing antibiotic treatment for viruses and consulting various
websites to find alternative PCPs. I think this kind of change is good. I
figure after nearly 50 years of exposure to everything, it probably won't make
a significant difference to my health, etc. but at least I'm supporting less toxic
product manufacturers when I can.</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<br>
<tt>BUT ALL THAT RAMBLING ASIDE: HERE'S YOUR TOXICOLOGIST TO EXPLAIN ALL OF
THIS :)</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Dr. Linda Birnbaum, toxicologist and director of the NIEHS (partial
credentials here: <a href="http://www.nih.gov/news/health/dec2008/niehs-03.htm">http://www.nih.gov/news/health/dec2008/niehs-03.htm</a>
), speaks on these impacts and the latest research and analytical advances at
the link below. The first 7 minutes are introductions that you can skip. The
presentation starts slow and the video isn't superb, but it gets really
interesting when she starts to talk about the correlations between these small
doses and their impacts and the interesting technology that is available to
determine them. Her goal is to be able to explain these correlations in a way
that a relatively intelligent 6th grader can understand it all--this is what
she told me afterwards--and I think she does a good job of it. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>What I think she proves, or makes us ponder, is that the timing of the dose
is as critical as the magnitude.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Her presentation was sponsored by the University of Minnesota Center for
Science, Technology & Public Policy, in partnership with the School of
Public Health, Environmental Science Division, Consortium on Law and Values,
Environmental Initiative, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA) and
Minnesota Department of Health (MDH).</tt><br>
<tt><a href="http://mediamill.cla.umn.edu/mediamill/display/158978">http://mediamill.cla.umn.edu/mediamill/display/158978</a></tt><br>
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<tt>JV</tt><br>
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<tt>-----Original Message-----</tt><br>
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[<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>]
On Behalf Of Miller, Christine M.</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:29 PM</tt><br>
<tt>To: Fredrick L. Miller; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about
DC's water</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Amen! </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Christine Miller l Recycling Coordinator</tt><br>
<tt>1419 Holland Rd. l Appleton, WI 54911</tt><br>
<tt>Phone: 920-968-5721 l Fax: 920-788-4130</tt><br>
<tt><a href="http://www.RecycleMoreOutagamie.org">www.RecycleMoreOutagamie.org</a>
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On Behalf Of Fredrick L. Miller</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:26 PM</tt><br>
<tt>To: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about
DC's water</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>"evidence suggests that the same contaminants that caused massive fish
kills and deformities in recent years are linked to increases in obesity,
diabetes, autism, cancer, and other disorders-and that medications and products
we use every day might contribute to the problem"</tt><br>
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<tt>I'm hoping someone way smarter than me in the field of toxicology can help
me with a question.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>We've heard since the time of Paracelsus "the dose makes the
poison" yet we accept statements such as the one above at face value. How
is it consuming such dilute levels of substances can cause all these ills while
consuming much higher concentrations is considered therapeutic? Shouldn't we be
much more concerned about consuming and applying the prescriptions, potions,
lotions, and neat substances in full strength? After all, that "witch's
brew" comes from our home to begin with. We dose ourselves there with
little to no regard for interaction. There is no agency watching out for our
safety when it comes to considering what happens when we mix our medications
with our shampoos, perfumes, household cleaners, plasticizers, fuels, etc. in
the home yet we're all wrapped around the axle about a few PPT of the stuff in
our drinking water. Isn't that a bit like having our cart before our horse?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Fred</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>P.s. I get that the fish and frogs can't protect themselves but using the drinking
water concentrations as the lead-off for the story just strikes me as
sensationalism and fearmongering.</tt><br>
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<tt>From: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>
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On Behalf Of Tenace, Laurie</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:57 AM</tt><br>
<tt>To: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about
DC's water</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Much more at the link.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt><a
href="http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/whats-in-the-water-we-drink-2/">http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/whats-in-the-water-we-drink-2/</a></tt><br>
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<tt>Washington's tap water, most of which comes from the Potomac River, meets
or exceeds federal water-quality standards. But new pollutants have emerged
that are not removed by current water-purification technology. Evidence suggests
that the same contaminants that caused massive fish kills and deformities in
recent years are linked to increases in obesity, diabetes, autism, cancer, and
other disorders-and that medications and products we use every day might
contribute to the problem.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Of all the natural resources in the Washington area, none is more important
than the potomac river. Besides the beauty and recreation it provides, the area
pulls nearly 400 million gallons of water a day out of it-about 90 percent of
our drinking water.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>In some ways, the Potomac is cleaner today than it was 40 or 50 years ago.
Back then, people were warned not to swim in the river or eat fish from it; a
tetanus vaccination was recommended for anyone who did swim there. On many
days, you could smell the Potomac before you saw it.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Improvements in wastewater treatment and conservation upgraded the water
quality of the river, which wends its way nearly 500 miles from its origin in
the Appalachian Plateau to Point Lookout, Maryland, where it empties into the
Chesapeake Bay. These efforts helped reduce major pollutants-such as nitrogen
and phosphorous from fertilizers, pesticides, and soaps-that fed algae,
rootless plant-like organisms that grow in sunlit water. Algae blooms-rapid
accumulations of microscopic algae in water that can stretch for miles-deplete
the water of oxygen and release harmful toxins. They can virtually destroy a
river if left to grow unchecked.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Despite this progress, the river is not "clean." In 2011, the
Potomac Conservancy, an organization that monitors the river, gave the Potomac
a grade of D, a drop from the D-plus the organization assigned it in 2007. The
conservancy noted that more than a third of the estimated 10,000 stream miles
in the Potomac watershed are threatened or impaired.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Even so, the drinking water in the Washington area is closely monitored and
meets or exceeds every Environmental Protection Agency water-quality standard.
But as some of the old pollutants have been removed from the river, new ones
have emerged that are not removed by current technology and may be harmful to
human health, especially for the very young.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This emerging class of contaminants, called endocrine-disrupting compounds
(EDCs), a variety of natural and manmade chemicals from many sources, first
came to light in a dramatic way in the summer and fall of 2002 with massive
fish kills along the south branch of the Potomac River in West Virginia, about
200 miles upstream from DC. Some of the contaminants are new, and others have
been discovered recently because new measuring techniques permit scientists to
identify EDCs in minute quantities.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Says Luke Iwanowicz, a scientist with the US Geological Survey: "Many
of these emerging contaminants have been off our radar until now, mostly
because we did not have the ability to detect them."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Jeff Kelble ran a fishing-guide business on the Shenandoah River, long
considered one of the nation's great fishing rivers, especially for smallmouth
bass. The Shenandoah empties into the Potomac at Harpers Ferry, West Virginia.
Kelble remembers when fish were so plentiful that they fought over his lures-it
wasn't uncommon for the sport fishermen he guided to catch 50 to 60 fish in a
day, all of which Kelble released back into the river.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>That changed in the last week of March 2004, when Kelble learned that fish
kills had struck the north fork of the Shenandoah. From his boat, when the
murky spring water was clear enough, Kelble could see redbreast sunfish and
smallmouth bass lying motionless on the riverbed.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble didn't know what to make of the scene. Had a poison been dumped into
the river? Was this fish kill related to the kills that had struck the south
branch of the Potomac in 2002 and 2003? Had a large quantity of milk somehow
found its way into the water from dairy farms along the riverbank? Milk has a
voracious appetite for oxygen and might have robbed the river of enough to kill
the fish, but when the river's oxygen levels were measured, they were normal.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble tried catching fish but had little luck. Finally, he hooked a
smallmouth bass.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>"We were excited at first," Kelble says, "but when we lifted
the fish out of the water, we saw it was covered with red sores that looked
like cigar burns, and it had lost many of its scales. I'd never seen anything
like it. I have an engineering degree-I'm not a biologist-and I had no idea
what was wrong. We caught a few other fish, and almost all had similar sores on
them." Kelble caught more fish. "Between 50 and 60 percent of the
fish had lesions," he says.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble, now a conservationist with Potomac Riverkeeper-a nonprofit that
monitors river quality throughout the four-state Potomac watershed-estimates
that in 2004 and 2005, 80 percent of the adult smallmouth-bass population was
wiped out in the Shenandoah River. The bass are back, Kelble says, but he still
sees sick fish.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Vicki Blazer, a fish pathologist with the US Geological Survey (USGS), had
the job of finding the cause of the fish kills. Working out of Kearneysville,
West Virginia, Blazer led a team onto the rivers to collect dead and dying
fish. Electroshocks in the water stunned the fish and brought them to the
surface, where Blazer's group netted them and put them into water buckets to
which an anesthetic was added.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>As Blazer dissected scores of smallmouth bass, she was surprised to find
that many of the males had characteristics of both sexes. Some 80 percent of
the male fish had oocytes-precursors of egg cells produced by females-in their
testes, a condition known as intersex.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Intersex among some species of fish is not unheard of but, Blazer says,
"you just don't see this intersex phenomenon with bass."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Ed Merrifield, president of Potomac Riverkeeper, calls the river fish kills
"the canary in the coal mine."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Our region is not alone. Fish die-offs have been reported in waterways
throughout the United States. Last September, thousands of white bass died in
the Arkansas River with no clear explanation. Beginning in 2008, fish kills and
fish with lesions were seen in the upper James River, and lesions were seen on
the Jackson and Cowpasture rivers in Virginia as well. Intersex fish also have
turned up in the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River.</tt><br>
<br>
<br>
<tt>Laurie Tenace</tt><br>
<tt>Environmental Specialist III</tt><br>
<tt>Waste Reduction Section</tt><br>
<tt>Florida Department of Environmental Protection</tt><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>FW: [Pharmwaste] What's in the
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Google
the phrase "U-shaped dose-response curve" and you'll begin to
understand how low concentrations of certain compounds might be of interest...</span></tt><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
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<tt>--Ross Bunnell</tt><br>
<tt>Sanitary Engineer 3</tt><br>
<tt>-----------------------</tt><br>
<tt>Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection (DEEP)</tt><br>
<tt>Bureau of Materials Management & Compliance Assurance</tt><br>
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On Behalf Of Miller, Christine M.</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:29 PM</tt><br>
<tt>To: Fredrick L. Miller; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about
DC's water</tt><br>
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<tt>Amen! </tt><br>
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<tt>Christine Miller l Recycling Coordinator</tt><br>
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On Behalf Of Fredrick L. Miller</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:26 PM</tt><br>
<tt>To: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about
DC's water</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>"evidence suggests that the same contaminants that caused massive fish
kills and deformities in recent years are linked to increases in obesity,
diabetes, autism, cancer, and other disorders-and that medications and products
we use every day might contribute to the problem"</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I'm hoping someone way smarter than me in the field of toxicology can help
me with a question.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>We've heard since the time of Paracelsus "the dose makes the
poison" yet we accept statements such as the one above at face value. How
is it consuming such dilute levels of substances can cause all these ills while
consuming much higher concentrations is considered therapeutic? Shouldn't we be
much more concerned about consuming and applying the prescriptions, potions,
lotions, and neat substances in full strength? After all, that "witch's
brew" comes from our home to begin with. We dose ourselves there with
little to no regard for interaction. There is no agency watching out for our
safety when it comes to considering what happens when we mix our medications
with our shampoos, perfumes, household cleaners, plasticizers, fuels, etc. in
the home yet we're all wrapped around the axle about a few PPT of the stuff in
our drinking water. Isn't that a bit like having our cart before our horse?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Fred</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>P.s. I get that the fish and frogs can't protect themselves but using the
drinking water concentrations as the lead-off for the story just strikes me as
sensationalism and fearmongering.</tt><br>
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[<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>]
On Behalf Of Tenace, Laurie</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:57 AM</tt><br>
<tt>To: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about
DC's water</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Much more at the link.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt><a
href="http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/whats-in-the-water-we-drink-2/">http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/whats-in-the-water-we-drink-2/</a></tt><br>
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<tt>Washington's tap water, most of which comes from the Potomac River, meets
or exceeds federal water-quality standards. But new pollutants have emerged
that are not removed by current water-purification technology. Evidence
suggests that the same contaminants that caused massive fish kills and
deformities in recent years are linked to increases in obesity, diabetes,
autism, cancer, and other disorders-and that medications and products we use
every day might contribute to the problem.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Of all the natural resources in the Washington area, none is more important
than the potomac river. Besides the beauty and recreation it provides, the area
pulls nearly 400 million gallons of water a day out of it-about 90 percent of
our drinking water.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>In some ways, the Potomac is cleaner today than it was 40 or 50 years ago.
Back then, people were warned not to swim in the river or eat fish from it; a
tetanus vaccination was recommended for anyone who did swim there. On many
days, you could smell the Potomac before you saw it.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Improvements in wastewater treatment and conservation upgraded the water
quality of the river, which wends its way nearly 500 miles from its origin in
the Appalachian Plateau to Point Lookout, Maryland, where it empties into the
Chesapeake Bay. These efforts helped reduce major pollutants-such as nitrogen
and phosphorous from fertilizers, pesticides, and soaps-that fed algae,
rootless plant-like organisms that grow in sunlit water. Algae blooms-rapid
accumulations of microscopic algae in water that can stretch for miles-deplete
the water of oxygen and release harmful toxins. They can virtually destroy a
river if left to grow unchecked.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Despite this progress, the river is not "clean." In 2011, the
Potomac Conservancy, an organization that monitors the river, gave the Potomac
a grade of D, a drop from the D-plus the organization assigned it in 2007. The
conservancy noted that more than a third of the estimated 10,000 stream miles
in the Potomac watershed are threatened or impaired.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Even so, the drinking water in the Washington area is closely monitored and
meets or exceeds every Environmental Protection Agency water-quality standard.
But as some of the old pollutants have been removed from the river, new ones
have emerged that are not removed by current technology and may be harmful to
human health, especially for the very young.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This emerging class of contaminants, called endocrine-disrupting compounds
(EDCs), a variety of natural and manmade chemicals from many sources, first
came to light in a dramatic way in the summer and fall of 2002 with massive
fish kills along the south branch of the Potomac River in West Virginia, about
200 miles upstream from DC. Some of the contaminants are new, and others have
been discovered recently because new measuring techniques permit scientists to
identify EDCs in minute quantities.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Says Luke Iwanowicz, a scientist with the US Geological Survey: "Many
of these emerging contaminants have been off our radar until now, mostly
because we did not have the ability to detect them."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Jeff Kelble ran a fishing-guide business on the Shenandoah River, long
considered one of the nation's great fishing rivers, especially for smallmouth
bass. The Shenandoah empties into the Potomac at Harpers Ferry, West Virginia.
Kelble remembers when fish were so plentiful that they fought over his lures-it
wasn't uncommon for the sport fishermen he guided to catch 50 to 60 fish in a
day, all of which Kelble released back into the river.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>That changed in the last week of March 2004, when Kelble learned that fish
kills had struck the north fork of the Shenandoah. From his boat, when the
murky spring water was clear enough, Kelble could see redbreast sunfish and
smallmouth bass lying motionless on the riverbed.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble didn't know what to make of the scene. Had a poison been dumped into
the river? Was this fish kill related to the kills that had struck the south
branch of the Potomac in 2002 and 2003? Had a large quantity of milk somehow
found its way into the water from dairy farms along the riverbank? Milk has a
voracious appetite for oxygen and might have robbed the river of enough to kill
the fish, but when the river's oxygen levels were measured, they were normal.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble tried catching fish but had little luck. Finally, he hooked a smallmouth
bass.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>"We were excited at first," Kelble says, "but when we lifted
the fish out of the water, we saw it was covered with red sores that looked
like cigar burns, and it had lost many of its scales. I'd never seen anything
like it. I have an engineering degree-I'm not a biologist-and I had no idea
what was wrong. We caught a few other fish, and almost all had similar sores on
them." Kelble caught more fish. "Between 50 and 60 percent of the
fish had lesions," he says.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble, now a conservationist with Potomac Riverkeeper-a nonprofit that
monitors river quality throughout the four-state Potomac watershed-estimates
that in 2004 and 2005, 80 percent of the adult smallmouth-bass population was
wiped out in the Shenandoah River. The bass are back, Kelble says, but he still
sees sick fish.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Vicki Blazer, a fish pathologist with the US Geological Survey (USGS), had
the job of finding the cause of the fish kills. Working out of Kearneysville,
West Virginia, Blazer led a team onto the rivers to collect dead and dying
fish. Electroshocks in the water stunned the fish and brought them to the
surface, where Blazer's group netted them and put them into water buckets to
which an anesthetic was added.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>As Blazer dissected scores of smallmouth bass, she was surprised to find
that many of the males had characteristics of both sexes. Some 80 percent of
the male fish had oocytes-precursors of egg cells produced by females-in their
testes, a condition known as intersex.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Intersex among some species of fish is not unheard of but, Blazer says,
"you just don't see this intersex phenomenon with bass."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Ed Merrifield, president of Potomac Riverkeeper, calls the river fish kills
"the canary in the coal mine."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Our region is not alone. Fish die-offs have been reported in waterways
throughout the United States. Last September, thousands of white bass died in
the Arkansas River with no clear explanation. Beginning in 2008, fish kills and
fish with lesions were seen in the upper James River, and lesions were seen on
the Jackson and Cowpasture rivers in Virginia as well. Intersex fish also have
turned up in the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River.</tt><br>
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<tt>Environmental Specialist III</tt><br>
<tt>Waste Reduction Section</tt><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>"'Fredrick L. Miller'"
<<a href="mailto:millerfl@tricity.wsu.edu">millerfl@tricity.wsu.edu</a>>,
<<a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>RE: [Pharmwaste] What's in the
Water We Drink - long article about DC's water<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Fred,
I am smarter than you so I hope this helps.</span></tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt>Paracelsus was wrong! Traditional toxicology does not take into account</tt><br>
<tt>chemicals that are designed to alter DNA, such as a Chemotherapy drugs like</tt><br>
<tt>Cyclophosphamide, doxorubicin and fluorouracil. The way Cytotoxic chemicals</tt><br>
<tt>work to cure cancer is to "burn" the gene on the end of a
chromosome so when</tt><br>
<tt>the RNA start to rebuild the helix thy do not fit (like sticking play dough</tt><br>
<tt>in a Lego) the cancer cell is mutated and is no longer a cancer cell, most</tt><br>
<tt>die but some live on as the altered cell (cancer or birth defect) and split</tt><br>
<tt>and split and split, think of it as a chemical germ. 30% of breast cancer</tt><br>
<tt>survivors develop a secondary cancer from the treatment and lookup</tt><br>
<tt>"cyclophosphamide Baby".</tt><br>
<tt>Ask a pharmacist if they have ever made a drug in a nano-gram per liter, or</tt><br>
<tt>even a pico-gram per liter, and what effect it had on the patient. Throw</tt><br>
<tt>away your textbooks on toxicology.</tt><br>
<tt>A couple of problems with the drugs is that they work on all cells not just</tt><br>
<tt>cancer but rapidly dividing cells such as hair and skin cells and the most</tt><br>
<tt>rapidly dividing cells, a child being born. The drugs work on a molecular</tt><br>
<tt>level that is why OSHA has a ZERO exposure limit for cytotoxins. </tt><br>
<tt>Cytotoxic drugs are made by guys in spacesuits (MERCK band 5) prepared in</tt><br>
<tt>million dollar rooms inside million dollar rooms in the pharmacy. The drug</tt><br>
<tt>is then inject into the patient and he is sent home to his family. Have you</tt><br>
<tt>ever taken a vitamin and a couple hours later your urine looks like you ate</tt><br>
<tt>your highlighter, that is the drug passing through your body unaltered.
What</tt><br>
<tt>if that drug was Cyclophosphamide (EPA U058) 25% passes unaltered in 24</tt><br>
<tt>hours (FDA) that is approximately 1000 ppm. The major metabolite is
Acrolein</tt><br>
<tt>(EPA P003). The cytotoxic chemicals are being poured down the toilet, into
a</tt><br>
<tt>septic system and into our drinking water. </tt><br>
<tt>The good news is that there are less than 25 drugs that are dangerous after</tt><br>
<tt>they pass through a person, and it can be controlled easily. We just need
to</tt><br>
<tt>accept that drugs are chemicals too and treating the empty vial of</tt><br>
<tt>cyclophosphamide as a chemical weapon (as it is) does not relieve ourselves</tt><br>
<tt>of the moral obligation to protect the future generations from chemicals</tt><br>
<tt>engineered as chemical weapons.</tt><br>
<tt>We have to stop talking about shampoo and sunscreen in the same sentence as</tt><br>
<tt>cytotoxic chemotherapy drugs, the same rules do not apply.</tt><br>
<tt>I have worked as a chemist in the hazardous waste disposal business for 25</tt><br>
<tt>years and I can't safely send an employee into a cancer center to clean a</tt><br>
<tt>toilet. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Jim Mullowney</tt><br>
<tt>Pharma-cycle.com</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>-----Original Message-----</tt><br>
<tt>From: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>[<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>]
On Behalf Of Fredrick L.</tt><br>
<tt>Miller</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:26 PM</tt><br>
<tt>To: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about</tt><br>
<tt>DC's water</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>"evidence suggests that the same contaminants that caused massive fish
kills</tt><br>
<tt>and deformities in recent years are linked to increases in obesity,</tt><br>
<tt>diabetes, autism, cancer, and other disorders-and that medications and</tt><br>
<tt>products we use every day might contribute to the problem"</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I'm hoping someone way smarter than me in the field of toxicology can help</tt><br>
<tt>me with a question.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>We've heard since the time of Paracelsus "the dose makes the
poison" yet we</tt><br>
<tt>accept statements such as the one above at face value. How is it consuming</tt><br>
<tt>such dilute levels of substances can cause all these ills while consuming</tt><br>
<tt>much higher concentrations is considered therapeutic? Shouldn't we be much</tt><br>
<tt>more concerned about consuming and applying the prescriptions, potions,</tt><br>
<tt>lotions, and neat substances in full strength? After all, that
"witch's</tt><br>
<tt>brew" comes from our home to begin with. We dose ourselves there with</tt><br>
<tt>little to no regard for interaction. There is no agency watching out for</tt><br>
<tt>our safety when it comes to considering what happens when we mix our</tt><br>
<tt>medications with our shampoos, perfumes, household cleaners, plasticizers,</tt><br>
<tt>fuels, etc. in the home yet we're all wrapped around the axle about a few</tt><br>
<tt>PPT of the stuff in our drinking water. Isn't that a bit like having our</tt><br>
<tt>cart before our horse?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Fred</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>P.s. I get that the fish and frogs can't protect themselves but using the</tt><br>
<tt>drinking water concentrations as the lead-off for the story just strikes me</tt><br>
<tt>as sensationalism and fearmongering.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>-----Original Message-----</tt><br>
<tt>From: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>[<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>]
On Behalf Of Tenace,</tt><br>
<tt>Laurie</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:57 AM</tt><br>
<tt>To: <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a></tt><br>
<tt>Subject: [Pharmwaste] What's in the Water We Drink - long article about
DC's</tt><br>
<tt>water</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Much more at the link.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt><a
href="http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/whats-in-the-water-we-drink-2/">http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/whats-in-the-water-we-drink-2/</a></tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Washington's tap water, most of which comes from the Potomac River, meets
or</tt><br>
<tt>exceeds federal water-quality standards. But new pollutants have emerged</tt><br>
<tt>that are not removed by current water-purification technology. Evidence</tt><br>
<tt>suggests that the same contaminants that caused massive fish kills and</tt><br>
<tt>deformities in recent years are linked to increases in obesity, diabetes,</tt><br>
<tt>autism, cancer, and other disorders-and that medications and products we
use</tt><br>
<tt>every day might contribute to the problem.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Of all the natural resources in the Washington area, none is more important</tt><br>
<tt>than the potomac river. Besides the beauty and recreation it provides, the</tt><br>
<tt>area pulls nearly 400 million gallons of water a day out of it-about 90</tt><br>
<tt>percent of our drinking water.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>In some ways, the Potomac is cleaner today than it was 40 or 50 years ago.</tt><br>
<tt>Back then, people were warned not to swim in the river or eat fish from it;</tt><br>
<tt>a tetanus vaccination was recommended for anyone who did swim there. On
many</tt><br>
<tt>days, you could smell the Potomac before you saw it.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Improvements in wastewater treatment and conservation upgraded the water</tt><br>
<tt>quality of the river, which wends its way nearly 500 miles from its origin</tt><br>
<tt>in the Appalachian Plateau to Point Lookout, Maryland, where it empties
into</tt><br>
<tt>the Chesapeake Bay. These efforts helped reduce major pollutants-such as</tt><br>
<tt>nitrogen and phosphorous from fertilizers, pesticides, and soaps-that fed</tt><br>
<tt>algae, rootless plant-like organisms that grow in sunlit water. Algae</tt><br>
<tt>blooms-rapid accumulations of microscopic algae in water that can stretch</tt><br>
<tt>for miles-deplete the water of oxygen and release harmful toxins. They can</tt><br>
<tt>virtually destroy a river if left to grow unchecked.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Despite this progress, the river is not "clean." In 2011, the
Potomac</tt><br>
<tt>Conservancy, an organization that monitors the river, gave the Potomac a</tt><br>
<tt>grade of D, a drop from the D-plus the organization assigned it in 2007.
The</tt><br>
<tt>conservancy noted that more than a third of the estimated 10,000 stream</tt><br>
<tt>miles in the Potomac watershed are threatened or impaired.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Even so, the drinking water in the Washington area is closely monitored and</tt><br>
<tt>meets or exceeds every Environmental Protection Agency water-quality</tt><br>
<tt>standard. But as some of the old pollutants have been removed from the</tt><br>
<tt>river, new ones have emerged that are not removed by current technology and</tt><br>
<tt>may be harmful to human health, especially for the very young.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This emerging class of contaminants, called endocrine-disrupting compounds</tt><br>
<tt>(EDCs), a variety of natural and manmade chemicals from many sources, first</tt><br>
<tt>came to light in a dramatic way in the summer and fall of 2002 with massive</tt><br>
<tt>fish kills along the south branch of the Potomac River in West Virginia,</tt><br>
<tt>about 200 miles upstream from DC. Some of the contaminants are new, and</tt><br>
<tt>others have been discovered recently because new measuring techniques
permit</tt><br>
<tt>scientists to identify EDCs in minute quantities.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Says Luke Iwanowicz, a scientist with the US Geological Survey: "Many
of</tt><br>
<tt>these emerging contaminants have been off our radar until now, mostly</tt><br>
<tt>because we did not have the ability to detect them."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Jeff Kelble ran a fishing-guide business on the Shenandoah River, long</tt><br>
<tt>considered one of the nation's great fishing rivers, especially for</tt><br>
<tt>smallmouth bass. The Shenandoah empties into the Potomac at Harpers Ferry,</tt><br>
<tt>West Virginia. Kelble remembers when fish were so plentiful that they
fought</tt><br>
<tt>over his lures-it wasn't uncommon for the sport fishermen he guided to
catch</tt><br>
<tt>50 to 60 fish in a day, all of which Kelble released back into the river.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>That changed in the last week of March 2004, when Kelble learned that fish</tt><br>
<tt>kills had struck the north fork of the Shenandoah. From his boat, when the</tt><br>
<tt>murky spring water was clear enough, Kelble could see redbreast sunfish and</tt><br>
<tt>smallmouth bass lying motionless on the riverbed.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble didn't know what to make of the scene. Had a poison been dumped into</tt><br>
<tt>the river? Was this fish kill related to the kills that had struck the
south</tt><br>
<tt>branch of the Potomac in 2002 and 2003? Had a large quantity of milk
somehow</tt><br>
<tt>found its way into the water from dairy farms along the riverbank? Milk has</tt><br>
<tt>a voracious appetite for oxygen and might have robbed the river of enough
to</tt><br>
<tt>kill the fish, but when the river's oxygen levels were measured, they were</tt><br>
<tt>normal.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble tried catching fish but had little luck. Finally, he hooked a</tt><br>
<tt>smallmouth bass.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>"We were excited at first," Kelble says, "but when we lifted
the fish out of</tt><br>
<tt>the water, we saw it was covered with red sores that looked like cigar</tt><br>
<tt>burns, and it had lost many of its scales. I'd never seen anything like it.</tt><br>
<tt>I have an engineering degree-I'm not a biologist-and I had no idea what was</tt><br>
<tt>wrong. We caught a few other fish, and almost all had similar sores on</tt><br>
<tt>them." Kelble caught more fish. "Between 50 and 60 percent of the
fish had</tt><br>
<tt>lesions," he says.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Kelble, now a conservationist with Potomac Riverkeeper-a nonprofit that</tt><br>
<tt>monitors river quality throughout the four-state Potomac
watershed-estimates</tt><br>
<tt>that in 2004 and 2005, 80 percent of the adult smallmouth-bass population</tt><br>
<tt>was wiped out in the Shenandoah River. The bass are back, Kelble says, but</tt><br>
<tt>he still sees sick fish.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Vicki Blazer, a fish pathologist with the US Geological Survey (USGS), had</tt><br>
<tt>the job of finding the cause of the fish kills. Working out of</tt><br>
<tt>Kearneysville, West Virginia, Blazer led a team onto the rivers to collect</tt><br>
<tt>dead and dying fish. Electroshocks in the water stunned the fish and
brought</tt><br>
<tt>them to the surface, where Blazer's group netted them and put them into</tt><br>
<tt>water buckets to which an anesthetic was added.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>As Blazer dissected scores of smallmouth bass, she was surprised to find</tt><br>
<tt>that many of the males had characteristics of both sexes. Some 80 percent
of</tt><br>
<tt>the male fish had oocytes-precursors of egg cells produced by females-in</tt><br>
<tt>their testes, a condition known as intersex.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Intersex among some species of fish is not unheard of but, Blazer says,
"you</tt><br>
<tt>just don't see this intersex phenomenon with bass."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Ed Merrifield, president of Potomac Riverkeeper, calls the river fish kills</tt><br>
<tt>"the canary in the coal mine."</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Our region is not alone. Fish die-offs have been reported in waterways</tt><br>
<tt>throughout the United States. Last September, thousands of white bass died</tt><br>
<tt>in the Arkansas River with no clear explanation. Beginning in 2008, fish</tt><br>
<tt>kills and fish with lesions were seen in the upper James River, and lesions</tt><br>
<tt>were seen on the Jackson and Cowpasture rivers in Virginia as well.
Intersex</tt><br>
<tt>fish also have turned up in the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River.</tt><br>
<br>
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<tt>Environmental Specialist III</tt><br>
<tt>Waste Reduction Section</tt><br>
<tt>Florida Department of Environmental Protection</tt><br>
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