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Yes, I’m responsible for the EPA R6 air permitting stance on take-back pharms.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At least in AR, household haz waste loses its designation by just being household, from generation to ultimate disposal, no dispute here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As far as the “terminator” for incineration (of contraband) see the below quote from a local chief of police who has been instrumental in making the AR take-back program such a national success (<a href="http://www.artakeback.org/">http://www.artakeback.org/</a> ) when asked for his opinion of take-back pharmas:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“The way I look at the drugs they are contraband. They are expired, un-used or unwanted. They serve no purpose other than to become misused, abused like the illegal drugs, which in my opinion is contraband.. K” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There needs to be a meeting of the EPA and DEA “minds” to equate the two in my opinion. As seen on a previous post, there’s many, many LE agencies across the U.S. who are already using these cyclonic burners to incinerate drugs they’ve seized and no longer needed as evidence. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Those drugs (DEA’s “contraband”) also include an as-yet determined amount of pills harvested from medicine cabinets for pharm parties and out of the pockets of those arrested for possession of controlled pharmas not in their name. Just don’t see the logic of pulling the LE agencies around the EPA loophole. Their “terminators” may be spewing air pollutants out just as harmful as our take-back programs disposal procedures (exhaust fumes from all the travelling).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My objective in seeking the air division’s interpretation was to remove the other environmental footprint of transporting these pharmas from all corners of this state to a licensed TSDF (almost on the LA border) to the point at which they were gathered/incinerated under the watchful eye of LE. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not wanting to bust our collective bubble (many have already seen this), but quoting from: <u>Drugs and the Environment: Stewardship & Sustainability</u></span> <span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(9/12/10) by EPA’s Dr. C. Daughton, “Much of the ongoing effort in developing drug collection programs to divert leftover drugs away from sewers and trash, with the intention to protect environment - lacks a body of supporting data for justification…Hypothetically, if all disposal of medications to sewers were to cease immediately, it is possible that there might not be any measurable difference in the current environmental loadings of APIs [active pharmaceutical ingredients] in general…” <a href="http://www.epa.gov/nerlesd1/bios/daughton/APM200-2010.pdf">http://www.epa.gov/nerlesd1/bios/daughton/APM200-2010.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We may be doing more irreversible harm to the environment wasting a non-renewable energy source and spewing more global warming pollutants into the environment than we are by keeping these U/E medications out of waters of the U.S. What’s the current estimate of pharmas actually being taken, but not being fully metabolized in our bodies passing through still causing toxicity to our aquatic life? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Allen g <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Price, John L. "Jack"<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Lucy, Burke'; Pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br><b>Cc:</b> George, Larry; Perrigan, Glen<br><b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] RE: pharmaceutical incineration - air permitting exemption for portable burn units limited to "contraband"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Burke: Our RCRA group received this email and attached Determination memo from EPA regarding the use of portable burn units for the disposal of pharmaceuticals collected at community and other take-back collection events. There is a federal exemption from air permitting for these units for destroying “contraband”. However, according to EPA, that exemption does not apply when burning drugs from take-back events. In Florida, it appears that some law enforcement agencies that use these units are not aware that the air permitting exemption is limited to contraband. We are going to provide this clarifying information to our law enforcement agencies.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>BEGIN EPA EMAIL (note: cc list deleted)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Kristin Fitzgerald [<a href="mailto:Fitzgerald.Kristin@epamail.epa.gov">mailto:Fitzgerald.Kristin@epamail.epa.gov</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> Chabot, Patricia M - DNR<br><b>Cc:</b> <br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Agenda Items for today's RIN Call - Pharmaceutical Burning; Followup from MN<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Here is the letter Region 6 Applicability Determination memo that Charlene Spells mentioned on the call today. In addition to the memo I sent earlier, this memo points out that the "contraband exemption" for law enforcement burning drugs is only for contraband drugs and that drugs collected during take-back events are NOT contraband. Also she suggested I include her contact info, in case anyone wants to follow up with her:</span><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Charlene E. Spells<br>U.S. EPA<br>OAQPS/SPPD <br>RTP, NC 27711<br>Phone: (919) 541-5255 Fax: (919) 541-3470<br><a href="mailto:spells.charlene@epa.gov">spells.charlene@epa.gov</a></span><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thanks,</span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kristin</span><br><br><i>(See attached file: 6-30-11 AMP ADEQ EEEE Final.pdf)</i><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>**************************************************************<br>Kristin Fitzgerald<br>US EPA<br>Office of Resource Conservation and Recovery <br>(formerly Office of Solid Waste)<br>mail code: 5304P<br>phone: 703-308-8286<br>fax: 703-308-0522</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>END EPA EMAIL<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>John L. (Jack) Price</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Environmental Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Waste Reduction MS 4555<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Florida Department of Environmental Protection<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>2600 Blair Stone Road<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Tallahassee, FL 32399-2400<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone:850.245.8751<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax: 850.245.8811<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:john.l.price@dep.state.fl.us"><span style='color:#9D454F'>john.l.price@dep.state.fl.us</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.dep.state.fl.us/waste"><span style='color:#9D454F'>www.dep.state.fl.us/waste</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please Note: Florida has a very broad public records law. Most written communications to or from state officials regarding state business are public records available to the public and media upon request. Your e-mail is communications and may therefore be subject to public disclosure.</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Please take a few minutes to share your comments on the service you received from the department by clicking on this link <a href="http://survey.dep.state.fl.us/?refemail=John.L.Price@dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">DEP Customer Survey</a>.</span></em><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us]">[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lucy, Burke<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">Pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] RE: pharmaceutical incineration<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Re: I’d like to know if anyone is aware of any recent research on the effectiveness of portable incinerators, or if they are being used in other states.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Local Charity Purchases Drug Disposal Device<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/Local-Charity--178122731.html">http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/Local-Charity--178122731.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The Save Our Kids Coalition of Bowling Green has purchased a "Drug Terminator", which will provide Kentucky State Police with a way to dispose of the prescription medication they receive from a very successful program.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hoffman, Deb<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 10, 2012 5:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">Pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:midwestpsc@googlegroups.com">midwestpsc@googlegroups.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] pharmaceutical incineration<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Greetings,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Here in Ohio, we’re discussing the usage of the portable incinerators, from an air pollution standpoint. I’ve been working with a colleague in the Ohio EPA Division of Air Pollution Control. I’d like to know if anyone is aware of any recent research on the effectiveness of portable incinerators, or if they are being used in other states. And if you would like to share incineration options in your state, I would be interested in hearing them.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Deb<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Deb Hoffman<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Environmental Specialist<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Division of Materials and Waste Management<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ohio EPA<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>614.728.5353<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>