<div dir="ltr">I have yet to see data on metabolites secreted or degradation of parent and metabolites in the environment by photodegradation, pH, microbial degradation. Are there analytes for parent and degradation products? Have the extraction methods be proven that parent and degradates can be extracted over time and that they are not adsorbed in the media tested? <div><br></div><div>Ron Ney</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:58 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-request@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-request@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Pharmwaste mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. excreted drugs & whole effluent toxicity? (Gilliam, Allen)<br>
2. NIOSH Updates Hazardous Drug List 2014 (Jeff Hollar)<br>
3. RE: excreted drugs & whole effluent toxicity? (Jim Mullowney)<br>
<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Gilliam, Allen" <<a href="mailto:GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us">GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us</a>><br>To: "'<a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>'" <<a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>><br>Cc: "Glassmeyer.susan@Epa.gov" <<a href="mailto:Glassmeyer.susan@epa.gov">Glassmeyer.susan@epa.gov</a>><br>Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:40:31 -0500<br>Subject: [Pharmwaste] excreted drugs & whole effluent toxicity?<br><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Fellow Pharma folks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sorry for getting off the take-back programs for just a minute.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Maybe most of you have already seen this, but Dr. Christian Daughton recently authored this </span><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#262626">Eco-directed sustainable prescribing: feasibility for reducing water contamination by drugs</span></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> @ </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.scitotenv.2014.06.013" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.scitotenv.2014.06.013</span></a> . Its abstract itself may take a few readings to understand (at least it did for me), but I believe the underlying concept of the manuscript is P2’s source reduction.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I only briefly scanned several pages of its content and is way above this mechanical engineer’s head. For those of you familiar with pharmacokinetics, you may be able to glean some important themes in the Dr’s contentions. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Add another acronym to your vocabulary if you haven’t already because Biopharmaceutics Drug Disposition Classification System (BDDCS) runs throughout its core.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I would expect a brief synopsis from our dear friend, Dr. Charlotte Smith in a few weeks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">My original e-mail’s intent to several experts on this issue was mainly to discover which analytical methods could be used to measure low level APIs (which method measure what APIs or their metabolites?); therefore, helping to determine if their presence could potentially be the toxicant(s) in cities’ WET sublethality failures (growth and reproductivity). <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dr. Susan Glassmeyer, e-cc’d above was suggested as a good source by Dr. Daughton. Dr. Glassmeyer? Would you please respond in some manner? I’d love for more cities to get involved with their own w.w. treatment plant’s effluent quality. Heretofore, most cities in the US are not sampling/analyzing for APIs or their metabolites. At least I have seen very few reports about them except through the USGS.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Ciao, </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Allen Gilliam<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">ADEQ State Pretreatment Coordinator<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="tel:501.682.0625" value="+15016820625" target="_blank">501.682.0625</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Jeff Hollar <<a href="mailto:jhollar@pwaste.com">jhollar@pwaste.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>><br>Cc: <br>Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:43:21 -0500<br>Subject: [Pharmwaste] NIOSH Updates Hazardous Drug List 2014<br><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal">27 new drugs added and 12 drugs removed. We have incorporated these changes in our database.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2014-138/pdfs/2014-138.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2014-138/pdfs/2014-138.pdf</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Jeff Hollar</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">President</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy">PharmWaste Technologies, Inc.</span></b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">4164 NW Urbandale Dr., Ste A</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Urbandale, IA 50322</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="tel:515-276-5302" value="+15152765302" target="_blank">515-276-5302</a> (general)</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="tel:515-331-7310" value="+15153317310" target="_blank">515-331-7310</a> (direct)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="tel:515-360-9785" value="+15153609785" target="_blank">515-360-9785</a> (cell)</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue"><a href="http://www.pwaste.com/" title="http://www.pwaste.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">www.pwaste.com</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Jim Mullowney <<a href="mailto:jmullowney@pharma-cycle.com">jmullowney@pharma-cycle.com</a>><br>To: "'Gilliam, Allen'" <<a href="mailto:GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us">GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us</a>>, <<a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:Glassmeyer.susan@epa.gov">Glassmeyer.susan@epa.gov</a><br>Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:45:37 -0400<br>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] excreted drugs & whole effluent toxicity?<br><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">What I took from Dr. Daughton’s report is that the way to reduce the effects of drugs in the environment is to lower the dose administered to the patient because drugs are in the environment from human excretion. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">He further states:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none">“Certain drug classes (especially cytotoxic chemotherapeutics) may not be amenable to this approach; the best control measure for such highly toxic drugs may simply be the prevention of urine and feces from entering sewers”<span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">There are 27 cytotoxic chemotherapy drugs that are heavily excreted (I attached the list) and need to be collected for 48 hours after infusion according to the World Health Organization. Go to <a href="http://www.cytotoxicsafety.com" target="_blank">www.cytotoxicsafety.com</a> to see how to easily control human waste with cytotoxic chemotherapy drugs.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Jim Mullowney<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gilliam, Allen<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 12, 2014 10:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> '<a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>'<br><b>Cc:</b> Glassmeyer.susan@Epa.gov<br><b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] excreted drugs & whole effluent toxicity?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Fellow Pharma folks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sorry for getting off the take-back programs for just a minute.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Maybe most of you have already seen this, but Dr. Christian Daughton recently authored this <u><span style="color:#262626">Eco-directed sustainable prescribing: feasibility for reducing water contamination by drugs</span></u><span style="color:#1f497d"> @ </span><a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.scitotenv.2014.06.013" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.scitotenv.2014.06.013</span></a> . Its abstract itself may take a few readings to understand (at least it did for me), but I believe the underlying concept of the manuscript is P2’s source reduction.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I only briefly scanned several pages of its content and is way above this mechanical engineer’s head. For those of you familiar with pharmacokinetics, you may be able to glean some important themes in the Dr’s contentions. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Add another acronym to your vocabulary if you haven’t already because Biopharmaceutics Drug Disposition Classification System (BDDCS) runs throughout its core.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I would expect a brief synopsis from our dear friend, Dr. Charlotte Smith in a few weeks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">My original e-mail’s intent to several experts on this issue was mainly to discover which analytical methods could be used to measure low level APIs (which method measure what APIs or their metabolites?); therefore, helping to determine if their presence could potentially be the toxicant(s) in cities’ WET sublethality failures (growth and reproductivity). <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dr. Susan Glassmeyer, e-cc’d above was suggested as a good source by Dr. Daughton. Dr. Glassmeyer? Would you please respond in some manner? I’d love for more cities to get involved with their own w.w. treatment plant’s effluent quality. Heretofore, most cities in the US are not sampling/analyzing for APIs or their metabolites. At least I have seen very few reports about them except through the USGS.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Ciao, <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Allen Gilliam<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">ADEQ State Pretreatment Coordinator<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="tel:501.682.0625" value="+15016820625" target="_blank">501.682.0625</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><br>---<br>
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