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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Ed,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I don&#8217;t see a requirement for a two key locking mechanism for drop boxes. And DEA does not seem to have the same two employee rule noted for law enforcement
 but rather relies on law enforcement&#8217;s internal security procedures.&nbsp; That may be helpful.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ed Gottlieb<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jaramillo, Jeanie; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] RE: law enforcement disposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Another option, that is working well in my county, is to have a regional storage facility.&nbsp;
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We bought a 20' trailer and placed it within a secure yard at the Sheriff's building.&nbsp; Small PD's, that don't have much secure storage space, were then able to have a drop box.&nbsp; Some departments empty their box (into a hinged lid transport container, sealed
 with a numbered security tag) and transfer custody directly to the Sheriff.&nbsp; Others store it for awhile and make larger deliveries.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Without the DEA pick-up, I think the Sheriff will have to drive to the incinerator twice a year.&nbsp; If we had more transport containers one trip per year might be enough.&nbsp; We are lucky, the incinerator is only 1.5 hours away and fee is $300 per load, no weight
 limit.&nbsp; The Sheriff's trailer holds 3000 #.&nbsp; If pharmacies in our area start collecting, the amount that law enforcement takes in should decrease, probably leading to once a year incinerator trips.&nbsp; The same result could likely be achieved if funding for more
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Considering the two key requirement for drop boxes, I wonder if two officers will need to be on pick-up/incinerator runs?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Ed Gottlieb <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">
<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] on behalf of Jaramillo, Jeanie [Jeanie.Jaramillo@ttuhsc.edu]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] RE: law enforcement disposal</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Completely agree. &nbsp;We are already getting questions from law enforcement here as well. &nbsp;The nearest incinerators for pharmaceuticals from my area are an 8-10 hour
 drive. &nbsp;The DEA days provided convenient disposal options for local law enforcement. &nbsp;Now, those departments that installed receptacles are strapped for resources (both personnel and financial) for disposal.
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 at ~$0.70 / pound. &nbsp;We're going to check with our contractor to see if they meet the new criteria to pick up controls as well. &nbsp;If so, perhaps we can arrange for additional stops at our local law enforcement sites. &nbsp;This would sure beat our officers trying
 to use &quot;high end burn barrels.&quot; &nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Another idea is some sort of joint effort between law enforcement. &nbsp;Our area is primarily rural. &nbsp;If one department rents a truck every six months, or so, and
 has an officer drive from dept to dept picking up the meds....then driving them to the waste management/reverse distributor site, that might work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Jeanie Jaramillo, PharmD</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"> Hauser, Deborah [Deborah.Hauser@epa.ohio.gov]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jim Humter; Gilliam, Allen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jaramillo, Jeanie; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] RE: Group discussion on take back programs</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Here in Ohio, it seems a number of law enforcement collections were saving up what they collected and then bringing it to the DEA Take Back Day every&nbsp; 6 months.
 &nbsp;What I&#8217;m hearing from a few law enforcement offices is that they are wondering what their options will be now that the DEA collection has ended.&nbsp; Fortunately for us, we have 2 hazardous waste incinerators in Ohio and I believe they are charging about $1 per
 pound.&nbsp; So it wouldn&#8217;t be excessively expensive for LE offices in Ohio to dispose of their collected pharms. &nbsp;It will be a matter of the LE offices committing financially and with time to transporting collected pharms to one of these incinerators a few times
 a year.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Humter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 13, 2014 12:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gilliam, Allen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jaramillo, Jeanie; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pharmwaste] RE: Group discussion on take back programs</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The DEA website has easy to understand materials for you.&nbsp;<br>
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Sent from Jim Hunter's iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Oct 13, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Gilliam, Allen &lt;<a href="mailto:GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us" target="_blank">GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Ok, I have to admit I haven&#8217;t read the new DEA reg very carefully.&nbsp; How would it affect current take-back programs with LE?&nbsp; Is it the controlled substance requirements?&nbsp; Please
 break this down in the simplest terms possible &#8216;cause this really isn&#8217;t in my job description.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Allen Gilliam</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jaramillo, Jeanie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 10, 2014 3:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] Group discussion on take back programs</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">To those who have been conducting take back programs with law enforcement,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Now that the new DEA rule has been out for a bit and we've had some time to absorb the information, I am interested in coordinating a group discussion for those
 who have been conducting take back programs with law enforcement and are now concerned that they may have to discontinue their programs. &nbsp;</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">If you're interested in having a discussion, perhaps sometime next week, please email me directly at
<a href="mailto:jeanie.jaramillo@ttuhsc.edu" target="_blank">jeanie.jaramillo@ttuhsc.edu</a> .&nbsp;</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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