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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>All:<br><br>I agree with Margaret Sheild’s post.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Also, even if they do pass along costs through the product price, the court stated it was not a burden to industry when the program costs were stipulated to be between $330,000 – 1.2 million in Alameda County per year when the industry sold over $950 million (close to a BILLION) dollars of drugs in Alameda per year. We are not asking them to take back giant TVs or mattresses – just little pills that go straight to destruction.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Arthur Sharstis who defended Alameda noted in the press the cost would be 1 cent for every $10 of drugs sold. CPSC’s numbers are 1 cent for every $100 sold. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Whatever costs you assume for the program, they can pass along the cost of this program but don’t have to pass the cost on - it’s a choice if they do. I’ve heard of seniors going to Mexico and Canada to get much more affordably priced medicines and in both countries (only some provinces of Canada) they have the EPR program so it seems to be a stretch to say in the US the cost of the pill collection program would increase prices enough to even be noticeable.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>Heidi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>********************************************************************</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Heidi Sanborn, Executive Director <br></span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'>(916) 706-3420 office (916) 402-3911 cell <a href="mailto:Heidi@CalPSC.org"><span style='color:#0F26CF'>Heidi@CalPSC.org</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><img border=0 width=250 height=86 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image008.jpg@01D09C53.89277EF0" alt="cpsc_logo_350_pix"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><a href="http://www.calpsc.org/"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=18 height=18 id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image003.jpg@01D09C53.85D6CD50" alt="cid:image001.png@01CC57C5.8223CD60"></span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.calpsc.org/"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Web</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/calpsc"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=18 height=18 id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image004.jpg@01D09C53.85D6CD50" alt="cid:image002.png@01CC57C5.8223CD60"></span></a><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.youtube.com/calpsc"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>YouTube</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/California-Product-Stewardship-Council/260410326394"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=17 height=17 id="Picture_x0020_5" src="cid:image005.jpg@01D09C53.85D6CD50" alt="cid:image011.png@01CC47A7.7F3D5C20"></span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/California-Product-Stewardship-Council/260410326394"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Facebook</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/CalPSC"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#404040;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=17 height=17 id="Picture_x0020_6" src="cid:image006.jpg@01D09C53.85D6CD50" alt="cid:image012.png@01CC47A7.7F3D5C20"></span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#404040'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://twitter.com/CalPSC"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Twitter</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><a href="http://linkedin.com/companies/275758/california+product+stewardship+council"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#404040;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=17 height=17 id="Picture_x0020_7" src="cid:image007.jpg@01D09C53.85D6CD50" alt="cid:image013.png@01CC47A7.7F3D5C20"></span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#404040'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://linkedin.com/companies/275758/california+product+stewardship+council"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Linked In</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>*********************************************************************</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Hollar<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 01, 2015 10:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Gilliam, Allen'; 'Barry Fernandez'; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] Senators encourage reinstatement of DEA Take-Back Events<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good point Barry. Some have argued that big and little Pharma will simply pass on their cost of this program to the rest of us in higher prices. I wonder if that will happen?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Jeff Hollar</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>President</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>PharmWaste Technologies, Inc.</span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>4164 NW Urbandale Dr., Ste A</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Urbandale, IA 50322</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>515-276-5302 (general)</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>515-331-7310 (direct)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>515-360-9785 (cell)</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:blue'><a href="http://www.pwaste.com/" title="http://www.pwaste.com/">www.pwaste.com</a></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Gilliam, Allen [<a href="mailto:GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us">mailto:GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 01, 2015 11:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> Barry Fernandez; Jeff Hollar; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] Senators encourage reinstatement of DEA Take-Back Events<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I certainly hope your prediction is true Barry. On the surface, it may seem the picture may be this rosy, but time will tell who steps up to the plate against the big Pharma…and our national pharmacy chains/local pharmacies joining in on the national scale…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Allen g<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Barry Fernandez [<a href="mailto:barry@clean-fuels.net">mailto:barry@clean-fuels.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 01, 2015 11:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> Gilliam, Allen; Jeff Hollar; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] Senators encourage reinstatement of DEA Take-Back Events<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>With the Supreme Court not hearing the Alameda County, CA case, the DEA doesn’t need to do take backs anymore. The door just flew open for every municipality in the country, including over 300 counties and thousands of cities, towns and rural communities to have fully funded pharmaceutical disposal programs paid for by private industry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The repercussions of this are going to be huge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>Barry Fernandez, </span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>President</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#009900'>Clean Fuels of Florida, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#009900'><a href="mailto:barry@clean-fuels.net">barry@clean-fuels.net</a> <br>Office (954) 791-9588 Fax (954) 791-9366<br>2635 NE 4th Avenue | Pompano Beach, Florida 33064</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Gilliam, Allen [<a href="mailto:GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us">mailto:GILLIAM@adeq.state.ar.us</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 01, 2015 8:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jeff Hollar; <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pharmwaste] Senators encourage reinstatement of DEA Take-Back Events<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Very good point Jeff,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The domino effect will begin I’m afraid. Coming from 25+ yrs in Pretreatment and watching the Feds (EPA) continual disinvestment in the National Pretreatment Program over the last 15+ yrs, it’s already hit hard here at the state level and now being felt at the City level: “If the Feds see no importance in the program, why should we?” seems to be the wounded wolf’s final cry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>A lot of people don’t want “big government” (like myself to an extent), but without its presence in some worthwhile nat’l programs, those programs are doomed to wither on the vine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Allen Gilliam<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>ADEQ State Pretreatment Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>501.682.0625<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Hollar<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 30, 2015 7:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Pharmwaste] Senators encourage reinstatement of DEA Take-Back Events<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Full Story:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.capito.senate.gov/content/capito-and-manchin-call-reinstatement-national-drug-take-back-days">http://www.capito.senate.gov/content/capito-and-manchin-call-reinstatement-national-drug-take-back-days</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Wouldn’t more consumer drugs be disposed if they reinstated the program? Isn’t that a good thing?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Jeff Hollar</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>President</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>PharmWaste Technologies, Inc.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>4164 NW Urbandale Dr., Ste A</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Urbandale, IA 50322</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>515-276-5302 (general)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>515-331-7310 (direct)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>515-360-9785 (cell)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:blue'><a href="http://www.pwaste.com/" title="http://www.pwaste.com/">www.pwaste.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>