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<p>Hi Greg,</p>
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<p>Their website claims:  </p>
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 drug destroying gel uses proprietary, patent-pending technology made of solidifying cross-linking chemical polymers that permanently sequester all medications.</font></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 24px; FONT-FAMILY: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: 300; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(218,240,172); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" size="2">The
 website has a link to an in-house paper:</font></span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 24px; FONT-FAMILY: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: 300; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(218,240,172); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial"><a href="http://disposerx.com/dl/DisposeRx_White_Paper_October_2017sm.pdf"><font size="2">http://disposerx.com/dl/DisposeRx_White_Paper_October_2017sm.pdf</font></a></span></p>
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<p>They said they will send me the 3rd party studies they cite sometime today.</p>
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<p>The gel forming process is said to take 10 minutes, much faster than the time needed for activated carbon (Deterra pouches, etc.) to work.</p>
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<p>A quick bit of research shows that polymer gels are very resistant to dissolution, which happens very slowly.</p>
<p><a href="http://wwwcourses.sens.buffalo.edu/ce435/Koenig03.pdf">http://wwwcourses.sens.buffalo.edu/ce435/Koenig03.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://pslc.ws/macrog/property/solpol/ps3.htm">http://pslc.ws/macrog/property/solpol/ps3.htm</a></p>
<p>I don't know if after dissolution any drugs could be recovered.</p>
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<p>The info they posted about government recommendations is outdated.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 144, Issue 6<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Does anyone have more information about the DisposeRx product? I'm wondering if it actually alters the opioids to a non-retrievable state or if it simply encapsulates the pills, or the dissolved pills, in the gel in a still-active state.</div>
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   2. Re: Now that's an interesting waste to dispose    of      liquids...<br>
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Subject: [Pharmwaste] Walmart offering free home disposal pouches<br>
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<p>Walmart will now offer a free DisposeRx home disposal pouch when dispensing opioid prescriptions.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2018/jan/17/retailer-to-throw-in-opioid-disposer-20/" target="_blank">http://www.arkansasonline.com/<wbr>news/2018/jan/17/retailer-to-<wbr>throw-in-opioid-disposer-20/</a></p>
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From: Catherine Zimmer <<a href="mailto:zenllc@usfamily.net" target="_blank">zenllc@usfamily.net</a>><br>
To: "'Edward Krisiunas'" <<a href="mailto:ekrisiunas@gmail.com" target="_blank">ekrisiunas@gmail.com</a>>, "'pharmwaste'" <<a href="mailto:pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>><br>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:28:23 -0600 (CST)<br>
Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Now that's an interesting waste to dispose of liquids...<br>
Hi Ed and all,<br>
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I'm glad this biomedical firm got caught and people were paying attention.<br>
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It reminds me of an enforcement case I worked on where a plating shop<br>
allowed acid plating waste to drain down the driveway into the storm sewer.<br>
The acid etched away the concrete--not to mention the acidification of the<br>
water in the River.  These guys also poured plating waste into the sanitary<br>
sewer--the floor in the bathroom was eaten away and all cobbled.  We did<br>
send them to jail.<br>
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Very truly yours,<br>
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Catherine Zimmer, MS, BSMT<br>
Executive director, HEARRT Midwest<br>
Principal, Zimmer Environmental Improvement<br>
Improving processes, minimizing and managing waste and, reducing costs.<br>
T:  <a href="tel:651.645.7509" target="_blank" value="+16516457509">651.645.7509</a><br>
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From: Pharmwaste [mailto:<a href="mailto:pharmwaste-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us" target="_blank">pharmwaste-bounces@<wbr>lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] On Behalf<br>
Of Edward Krisiunas<br>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 6:03 AM<br>
To: pharmwaste<br>
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Now that's an interesting waste to dispose of<br>
liquids...<br>
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Good day all:<br>
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<a rel="noreferrer" href="http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2128418/chinese-drug-firm-used-water-tanker-spray-liquid-waste-streets" target="_blank">http://www.scmp.com/news/<wbr>china/society/article/2128418/<wbr>chinese-drug-firm-use<br>
d-water-tanker-spray-liquid-<wbr>waste-streets</a><br>
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Regards,<br>
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Ed<br>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:10:27 -0500<br>
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Walmart-launches-groundbreaking-disposal-solution-to-aid-in-fight-against-opioid-abuse-and-misuse<br>
Good day:<br>
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Saw this on a posting called "STAT"..<br>
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<a rel="noreferrer" href="https://news.walmart.com/2018/01/17/walmart-launches-groundbreaking-disposal-solution-to-aid-in-fight-against-opioid-abuse-and-misuse?utm_source=STAT+Newsletters&utm_campaign=d99329d601-MR&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8cab1d7961-d99329d601-149752625" target="_blank">https://news.walmart.com/2018/<wbr>01/17/walmart-launches-<wbr>groundbreaking-disposal-<wbr>solution-to-aid-in-fight-<wbr>against-opioid-abuse-and-<wbr>misuse?utm_source=STAT+<wbr>Newsletters&utm_campaign=<wbr>d99329d601-MR&utm_medium=<wbr>email&utm_term=0_8cab1d7961-<wbr>d99329d601-149752625</a><br>
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<div><font color="#444444" size="2" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><span style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap">4300 Cherry Creek Drive South, DEHS-A2</span><br>
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