shrug-l: Looking for Suggestions
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You may want to give the Geography Department a call. They have a GIS lab
and teach GIS courses. They have an applied GIS M.S. degree program.
Lance Peterson
Peterson Consulting / FL Dept. of Transportation
Business Systems Support Office
Office of Information Systems
Phone: 850-410-5545
SunCom: 210-5545
"Sykes, John" <John.Sykes@dep.state.fl.us>
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RE: shrug-l: Looking for Suggestions
I started with a DeLorme product, then went to MapInfo and finally ArcGIS.
It would have definitely been easier to start with ArcGIS, although cost
played a large roll in getting the first two. The problem was that my
needs
soon exceeded their capabilities - ArcGIS definitely has the most power.
The
main problem I noticed in changing software packages was different
terminology and other small "quirks" from one product to another, that
just
drove me crazy. I don't think ESRI's terminology is the greatest, but
once
you get use to it, it's OK.
Programming law #2 - "Make it possible for programmers to write programs
in
plain English and you will find out that programmer can't write plain
English." (I think this quote is attributable to RAdm Ruth Hooper, one of
the
co-inventors of COBOL, who also coined the term "Bug" when a moth got
trapped
in a relay of one of the first digital computers causing it to fail).
-- John
P.S. By the way, programming law #1 is "Any program will soon expand to
use
all the available memory and disk space on a given computer."
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Subject: shrug-l: Looking for Suggestions
Hi
I am looking for some ideas about software. I have been asked to teach GIS
to
under Grad and Grad students.
Here is the situation:
1: we run MAC, Linux, XP on the desk tops. (I am looking for GIS software
that runs on all platforms.)
2. I can not incur a large recurring cost or high setup costs for multiple
machines.
What I have so far is:
Software Cost Platforms
Comments
QGIS Free (open source) Mac, XP, Linux
limited XP
TNTLite Free (limited capability) Mac, XP, Linux
limited data size
Grass Free (open source) Mac, XP, Linux
steep setup
3. For web services, It will start on a Linux (maybe windows server in 6
months)
Software
MN MapSever Free (open source)
WebView Professional $360 (Educational License that is
extension in ARCGIS)
If I get a Windows server
Software
MN MapSever Free (open source)
Manifold $300 (fully functional)
Thanks for any ideas or suggestions
Gary Watry
GIS Coordinator
Center for Ocean-Atmospheric Prediction Studies Floirda State University
Suite 200 Johnson Building Tallahassee, Florida 32306
Phone: (850) 644-4174
E-mail: watry@coaps.fsu.edu
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">You may want to give the Geography Department
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Lance Peterson<br>
Peterson Consulting / FL Dept. of Transportation<br>
Business Systems Support Office<br>
Office of Information Systems<br>
Phone: 850-410-5545<br>
SunCom: 210-5545<br>
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<br><font size=2><tt>I started with a DeLorme product, then went to MapInfo
and finally ArcGIS.<br>
It would have definitely been easier to start with ArcGIS, although cost<br>
played a large roll in getting the first two. The problem was that
my needs<br>
soon exceeded their capabilities - ArcGIS definitely has the most power.
The<br>
main problem I noticed in changing software packages was different<br>
terminology and other small "quirks" from one product to another,
that just<br>
drove me crazy. I don't think ESRI's terminology is the greatest,
but once<br>
you get use to it, it's OK.<br>
<br>
Programming law #2 - "Make it possible for programmers to write programs
in<br>
plain English and you will find out that programmer can't write plain<br>
English." (I think this quote is attributable to RAdm Ruth Hooper,
one of the<br>
co-inventors of COBOL, who also coined the term "Bug" when a
moth got trapped<br>
in a relay of one of the first digital computers causing it to fail).<br>
<br>
-- John<br>
<br>
P.S. By the way, programming law #1 is "Any program will soon
expand to use<br>
all the available memory and disk space on a given computer."<br>
<br>
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From: shrug-l-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:17 PM<br>
To: shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
Subject: shrug-l: Looking for Suggestions<br>
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Hi<br>
<br>
I am looking for some ideas about software. I have been asked to teach
GIS to<br>
under Grad and Grad students. <br>
<br>
Here is the situation:<br>
1: we run MAC, Linux, XP on the desk tops. (I am looking for GIS software<br>
that runs on all platforms.)<br>
<br>
2. I can not incur a large recurring cost or high setup costs for multiple<br>
machines.<br>
<br>
What I have so far is:<br>
Software Cost
Platforms<br>
Comments <br>
QGIS Free
(open source) Mac,
XP, Linux <br>
limited XP<br>
TNTLite Free
(limited capability) Mac, XP, Linux <br>
limited data size<br>
Grass Free
(open source)
Mac, XP, Linux <br>
steep setup<br>
<br>
3. For web services, It will start on a Linux (maybe windows server in
6<br>
months)<br>
Software<br>
MN MapSever
Free (open source)<br>
WebView Professional $360
(Educational License that is<br>
extension in ARCGIS)<br>
<br>
If I get a Windows server<br>
Software<br>
MN MapSever Free (open
source)<br>
Manifold $300
(fully functional)<br>
<br>
Thanks for any ideas or suggestions<br>
<br>
Gary Watry<br>
<br>
GIS Coordinator<br>
Center for Ocean-Atmospheric Prediction Studies Floirda State University<br>
Suite 200 Johnson Building Tallahassee, Florida 32306<br>
<br>
Phone: (850) 644-4174<br>
E-mail: watry@coaps.fsu.edu<br>
<br>
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