shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe

[Kimberly Steele]

I have been working on the same map for 2 months now trying to get the
annotation to plot legibly and not stepped all over itself, or just not
there because another label superseded it. I do use Mapplex, but it is a
trade off the enhanced features are nice but you sacrifice map redraw
time. I use the pause button but you have to turn it back on the qc your
changes......... even then what you see on screen may look great but the
plot reveals a whole different story..............  I would LOVE to move
on to another project like a month ago. :o)
 
Kimberly Steele
ksteele at co.okaloosa.fl.us
 

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From: Nonie Castro [mailto:nonie_castro at coxtarget.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:29 PM
To: Tripp Corbin; Tim Spivey; shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe


Well, THAT is not encouraging!!!


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	From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Tripp Corbin
	Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:53 PM
	To: Tim Spivey; shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
	Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe
	
	
	Labels and/or annotation are the most time consuming part of any
map. I agree. That seems to be true no matter what software you use. 
	 
	 

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		-----Original Message-----
		From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Tim Spivey
		Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:34 PM
		To: shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
		Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use
in Adobe
		
		
		At the risk of preaching to the choir here, with some
knowledge of VB scripting in ArcMap/Editor/Info, you can get a bit more
creative with label placement - but I don't claim to have that
knowledge, only access to the online ESRI user forum and folks who know
some of the solutions. For example, you can force labels into two lines
of text rather than just one.
		 
		Dunno about you, but I seem to spend half my map
production time hand-placing labels.
		 
		Tim
		Tift County GA

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		From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Kyle Schaper
		Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:54 AM
		To: shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
		Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use
in Adobe
		
		
		Nonie -
		
		I feel your pain.  How absolutely ridiculous is it that
you cannot move labels at all until you convert to annotation... Correct
me if I am wrong, but once converted, labels are no longer referencing
an attribute table, which from time to time gets updated, especially
when the labels are acre calcs for example.  This means you have to
delete them all and start over, hand placing them one by one again when
in reality you may only need to move a few or only a few were updated.
Your only solution from ESRI is to purchase another extension- maplex,
or drop thousands for ArcInfo.  What a great way to appease the
customer. 
		
		Aside from the rant, I am with Casey in that we export
to PDF and open that up in Illustrator.  This is a terrible workflow
that forces most work done to have to be re-done if map scale is changed
or new layers are added, which is why we only take that route sparingly.
Most of the time we put up with the mediocre at best graphic abilities
that Arc has.  (What a pitiful lack of transparency handling --- c'mon!)

		
		I have not heard of/tried of Avenza --- thanks for the
tip!
		
		Kyle Schaper
		

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