shrug-l: New under water ships down under

Peterson, Lance Lance.Peterson at talgov.com
Wed Feb 1 14:08:25 EST 2012


If you go to the same location in Bing maps, with the bird’s eye view turned on, you will see the “sunken” ships when you rotate the view. If you also pan, different ships also appear in the view. So, this is probably an artifact of images being overlaid on top of another, perhaps along the edges of an image tile. I’d say that this is to be expected with automated processing, which I assume Google is doing to provide imagery for most of the world’s landmass.

As Jacob pointed out, this is why you cannot expect accuracy at a global scale. With a local scale, better quality can be achieved since the data set is so much smaller.

Lance Peterson
ISS Business Systems Analyst
City of Tallahassee
850-891-2019

From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Jacob Coble
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:33 PM
To: Bendis, Joe; Jim at gpserv.com; SHRUG; Sandell, Keith
Subject: RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under

Seriously, maybe whenever anyone runs across something this bad in Google, they should share it with this group. We could have a few examples to use whenever a bean counter says, "We don't need GIS, Google is good enough." Can you imagine several more examples like the one Joe sent? An accurate GIS map made with good local data vs. a flawed Google map of the same area.

Maybe this could be a S.H.R.U.G. poster contest - each poster would feature a quality GIS map on one half and an inaccurate Google map of the same area on the other half. What if we had several such posters, the PDF files could be shared. Anytime people needed to describe to the powers that be the value of their GIS program, they could print these posters and show them (even if the poster is not of their locality - the point is to show that Google is not sufficient for many uses). And it is not only imagery problems - we all have seen problems in the Google streets vs. local data. A picture is worth a thousand words.


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>>> "Joe Bendis" <jbendis at sgrc.us<mailto:jbendis at sgrc.us>> 2/1/2012 1:14 PM >>>
An NEVER try to navigate “Local” waters either Jim (Lanark Village) just south of Tallahassee, FL.

The island locally know as Bird Island or Lanark Reef is almost completely missing from Google
[GoogleEarth_Image.jpg]

Same area with Bing from a GIS project Basemap

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Joseph E. Bendis
VALOR GIS Specialist
Southern Georgia
Regional Commission
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Valdosta, GA 31601
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From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us<mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us> [mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us]<mailto:[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us]> On Behalf Of Keith Sandell
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:59 PM
To: Jim at gpserv.com<mailto:Jim at gpserv.com>; SHRUG
Subject: RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under

Have they sued Google yet for sinking their ships?

Because as we all know Google is always “right” and that’s why we don’t need GIS people. (you can’t hear the extreme sarcasm in my voice, but it’s there trust me)

Reminds me of a time when a Google sales person was pitching some of their products to me and repeatedly told me that with “our” products you don’t need GIS people, yea sign me up for that…

Good example to keep around the next time management or politicians say, “Why do we need you, we have Google!”

They just might sink you ship!

Thanks for sharing Jim.

Keith Sandell, MBA
GIS Manager, Corporate Analytics
Citizens Property Insurance Corporation
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From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us<mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us> [mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us]<mailto:[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us]> On Behalf Of Jim Robeson
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:37 PM
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Subject: shrug-l: New under water ships down under

Interesting things afoot in Sydney harbor.  The Australians have new submergible ships.     That is how it appears in Google Earth.  Nice job guys!!!  Thought The GIS community might find this humorous.

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