shrug-l: Re: Google imagery accuracy
Porter, William B.
william.porter at famu.edu
Fri Feb 10 12:05:56 EST 2012
Exactly.
Google maps are great if you sort of want to get there sometimes - but
if you have to get there, every time, a real GIS with responsible staff
is essential.
William B. Porter william.porter at famu.edu 850 412 5972
Application Coordinator for GIS / Infrastructure
Florida A&M University
EIT / GIS
Perry-Paige, West Wing Ground floor,
Office 1 -D
1740 S. M L King BLVD
TLH FL 32307
From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Kyle Schaper
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:23 AM
To: shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: shrug-l: Re: Google imagery accuracy
Here is another example of why GIS should not be replaced with only
Google services: http://g.co/maps/yfhun
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1. RE: New under water ships down under (Jim Robeson)
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From: "Jim Robeson" <jim at gpserv.com>
To: "'SHRUG'" <shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
Cc:
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:24:20 -0500
Subject: RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under
Jacob makes an excellent point. I hear of a lot of pressure for groups
and individuals who want to replace GIS with Google. They just don't
know that they are going to receive in turn for their cost savings.
Regards,
Jim Robeson
James M. Robeson
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From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:
shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Jacob Coble
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:33 PM
To: Bendis, Joe; Jim at gpserv.com; SHRUG; Sandell, Keith
Subject: RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under
Seriously, maybe whenever anyone runs across something this bad in
Google, they should share it with this group. We could have a few
examples to use whenever a bean counter says, "We don't need GIS, Google
is good enough." Can you imagine several more examples like the one Joe
sent? An accurate GIS map made with good local data vs. a flawed Google
map of the same area.
Maybe this could be a S.H.R.U.G. poster contest - each poster would
feature a quality GIS map on one half and an inaccurate Google map of
the same area on the other half. What if we had several such posters,
the PDF files could be shared. Anytime people needed to describe to the
powers that be the value of their GIS program, they could print these
posters and show them (even if the poster is not of their locality - the
point is to show that Google is not sufficient for many uses). And it is
not only imagery problems - we all have seen problems in the Google
streets vs. local data. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Jacob Coble, GISP
GIS Specialist II
Tallahassee-Leon County GIS
Leon County Courthouse, Level P-3
301 S. Monroe St.
Tallahassee, FL 32301
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coblej at leoncountyfl.gov
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>>> "Joe Bendis" <jbendis at sgrc.us> 2/1/2012 1:14 PM >>>
An NEVER try to navigate "Local" waters either Jim (Lanark Village) just
south of Tallahassee, FL.
The island locally know as Bird Island or Lanark Reef is almost
completely missing from Google
Same area with Bing from a GIS project Basemap
Joseph E. Bendis
VALOR GIS Specialist
Southern Georgia
Regional Commission
327 W. Savannah Ave.
Valdosta, GA 31601
229-333-5277 x143 <tel:229-333-5277%20x143>
jbendis at sgrc.us <mailto:jbendis at sgrdc.com>
From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:
shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Keith Sandell
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:59 PM
To: Jim at gpserv.com; SHRUG
Subject: RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under
Have they sued Google yet for sinking their ships?
Because as we all know Google is always "right" and that's why we don't
need GIS people. (you can't hear the extreme sarcasm in my voice, but
it's there trust me)
Reminds me of a time when a Google sales person was pitching some of
their products to me and repeatedly told me that with "our" products you
don't need GIS people, yea sign me up for that...
Good example to keep around the next time management or politicians say,
"Why do we need you, we have Google!"
They just might sink you ship!
Thanks for sharing Jim.
Keith Sandell, MBA
GIS Manager, Corporate Analytics
Citizens Property Insurance Corporation
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From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:
shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Jim Robeson
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:37 PM
To: 'SHRUG'
Subject: shrug-l: New under water ships down under
Interesting things afoot in Sydney harbor. The Australians have new
submergible ships. That is how it appears in Google Earth. Nice job
guys!!! Thought The GIS community might find this humorous.
Regards,
Jim Robeson
James M. Robeson
Mapping/GIS Sales, Trimble Certified Trainer
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