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<DIV><SPAN class=001290716-22122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>FYI -
Here is the answer to the difference between the WGS transformations
#1-5:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday,
December 22, 2005 10:52 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Hughes, Ronald;
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l:
Lat-Long<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=924014515-22122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The steps I listed will work too. You can export a
NEW shapefile from ArcMap in the spatial reference of the data frame (which
can be different than the original shapefile). As long as everything is
defined correctly, you'll have no problem. I do it all the
time.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=924014515-22122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=924014515-22122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>As far as the datum transformation list... that's a good
question. I always wondered that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=924014515-22122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=924014515-22122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Hughes,
Ronald<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:32 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l:
Lat-Long<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Actually,
you need to use <SPAN class=SpellE>ArcToolbox</SPAN> to <SPAN
class=SpellE>reproject</SPAN> the <SPAN class=SpellE>shapefile</SPAN>. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All the steps mention below do is
re-define the projection file.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It
would be analogous to assigning a new mailing address to you home without
physically moving it from its current location. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In other words, if your house sits at
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">800 Main
Street</st1:address></st1:Street> and you change the address to <st1:Street
w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">21 Jump Street</st1:address></st1:Street>,
the house still remains at <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">800
Main Street</st1:address></st1:Street>. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">The
Present version of <SPAN class=SpellE>ArcToolbox</SPAN> that I have (<SPAN
class=SpellE>ArcGIS</SPAN> 9.1) is different from that what I'd previously had
but it appears to work the same way.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Open
up <SPAN class=SpellE>ArcToolbox</SPAN> and select Data Management Tools
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ascii-font-family: Helvetica; mso-hansi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings">à</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">
Projections and Transformations </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings
color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ascii-font-family: Helvetica; mso-hansi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings">à</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">
Project. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Click
on Project and a menu should come up that asks for your <SPAN
class=SpellE>imput</SPAN> feature and output (in <SPAN
class=SpellE>ArcGIS</SPAN> 9.1 it automatically assigns a 'P' at the end of
the name of the input and places it in the output. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Select the projection that you want for
the output by clicking on the button to the right of the input window. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That will bring up a menu called
"Spatial Reference Properties".<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">1.)
Click the button labeled "Select".<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">2.)
Click the Geographic Coordinate Systems folder<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">3.)
Click the <st1:place w:st="on">North America</st1:place> folder and select the
coordinate system that you want (probably North American 1983 <SPAN
class=SpellE>HARN.prj</SPAN>).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">4.)
Click the "Add" button and select "OK".<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">If
you have any other questions just ask. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=maroon size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Good
luck!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Thomas, Jim<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:34
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> tdarsey@hsa.cc;
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: shrug-l:
Lat-Long</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1. Define your
shapefile's spatial reference in ArcCatalog</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2. Load the shapefile
into ArcMap</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">3. Change the data
frame spatial reference to Lat/Long</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">4. Export the new
shapefile using the data frame's spatial reference (during
export)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">5. That's
it.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Tony Darsey<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:30
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> shrug-l:
Lat-Long</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can anyone tell me how to convert
a shape file from State Plane to Lat/Long?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></B>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Tony Darsey</SPAN></B> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">HSA Consulting Group, Inc.</SPAN></B>
<BR><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">1311 Executive Center Drive, Suite
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Tallahassee</SPAN></B></st1:City><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">, <st1:State w:st="on">FL</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">32301</st1:PostalCode></SPAN></B></st1:address>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Phone (850) 309-7510</SPAN></B>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Fax (850)
309-7510</SPAN></B> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cell (850)
508-6477</SPAN></B> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">email
tdarsey@hsa.cc</SPAN></B> <o:p></o:p></P>
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