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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><font size=3
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks, we do have
the TGR2SHP software and I could go that route. I was trying to find if
anybody knew of a source for this data already joined up. Why is that
CENSUS, or some other 3rd party have not made this data available. I am
sure I am not the first person to look for this data in a GIS format in
Georgia!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=gmailquote><font
size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>On 11/2/06, <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Mark.Welsh@dot.state.fl.us</span></b>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><font size=3
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Bret,<br>
My experience has been that usually you need to make this data on your own,<br>
which I'm sure is what you didn't want to hear. The reason I say
this is<br>
because the demo data (eg. Census SF data) has several hundred fields for<br>
blocks and the field names have useful aliases like SF0100010 so it takes<br>
some effort to (A) decode the fields you want and (B) put it together.<br>
Here is the approach we took at the <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">florida</st1:place></st1:State>
legislature for the<br>
redistricting effort:<br>
<br>
We purchased TGR2SHP software ($40) which will process the non-GIS TIGER<br>
data and turn it into blocks/blkgroups (but no demographic
data). THEN we<br>
had to download the attribute data separately from the census and process<br>
this (Census has a free MDB template to help), then create identifiers in<br>
the shape and attribute data and THEN join it. together.<br>
<br>
Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Sykes, John</st1:PersonName> [mailto:John.Sykes@dep.state.fl.us] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 02, 2006
4:30 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Bretyn
Whiteley</st1:PersonName>; Tan, Yurong<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">SHRUG</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Georgia</st1:place></st1:country-region> Census
Blocks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>Aren't they on the US Census Bureau's TIGER
website?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bret Whiteley<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 02, 2006
4:18 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Tan, Yurong'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">SHRUG</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Georgia</st1:place></st1:country-region> Census
Blocks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Been there done that, not much help<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Tan, Yurong
[mailto:Yurong.Tan@va.gov] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 02, 2006
4:17 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Bretyn
Whiteley</st1:PersonName>; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">SHRUG</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Georgia</st1:country-region></st1:place>
Census Blocks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>You can google it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p><a name=""><b><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Yurong Tan, Ph.D.</span></font></b></a><font
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, Program Analyst/GIS</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>PSSG - Field Unit of ADUSH for Policy and Planning</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Department of Veterans Affairs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Tel: 352-374-6080 (x5382)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Fax: 352-374-6119</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>___________________________________</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><i><font size=4 color="#9900ff" face="Monotype Corsiva"><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Monotype Corsiva";color:#9900FF;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>They all gave some and some gave all!</span></font></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>_____________________________________________<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [<a
href="mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>]</span></font><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'> </span></b><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of</span></font></b>
<font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Bret
Whiteley<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 02, 2006
4:07 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">SHRUG</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> shrug-l: <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Georgia</st1:country-region></st1:place>
Census Blocks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I
am trying to find a source of US Census Blocks / Block Groups for <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Georgia</st1:country-region></st1:place>
that contain the demographic info already joined up.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Anybody
got any leads?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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