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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I got a commercial geocoding package a
couple years ago for $14.000 first year and thereafter $4,000/yr for continuing
update the addresses database because that zip codes are updated by the USPS
monthly (zip deletion, splitting, merging, …), new addresses are added
all the time, counties are split or merged, etc.. Generally speaking, I
am happy about it. However, after a couple years in geocoding tens, if
not hundreds, of millions of addresses each year, I sometimes found that
addresses can be misplaced miles away or out of State including some in Florida
using the current geocoder. This happened even after the addresses were checked
and then corrected if necessary, against the latest NCOA (national change of
address).</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Interestingly, those “problematic
addresses” were all put right on the money through Google Map. So I
am currently evaluating Navteq which is said to be the backbone for Google map
address searches. </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Geocoding software venders normally each have
their own “proprietary criterion” of addresses matching and some
might have implemented what they called “aggressive intelligence” to
give an output for addresses that do not have an exact match. This can be
problematic because it gives you a wrong location for those addresses rather
than simply not geocoding it!!!. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If your area is generally a County, I
would suggest getting an address database from a local source (Police, Sheriff,
County property appraise, or the local private vender). If your project
or application deals with emergency or dispatching issues, you might need to
consider some other factors because one misplacement of an address can result
in life/death.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Benton Belcher<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 21, 2007
1:49 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> lance.peterson@dot.state.fl.us<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> SHRUG-L@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: FL data for
Address Geocoding</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I
believe that it is Navteq for streets, Group 1 (Pitney-Bowes) for parcel
centriod and building footprint. I will check with the Virtual
Earth/MapPoint Team and report back. It may be stated in their EULA.</span></font></p>
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Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> lance.peterson@dot.state.fl.us
[mailto:lance.peterson@dot.state.fl.us]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed 3/21/2007 1:21 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Benton Belcher<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> SHRUG-L@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: FL data for
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</span></font><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:sans-serif'>Do you know what source is for the Microsoft GIS data?
I took a look at their site and can't find the GIS metadata info that I would
normally expect to find.</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'><br>
Lance Peterson<br>
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"Yasar Korkmaz" <Yasar.Korkmaz@citizensfla.com>,
<SHRUG-L@lists.dep.state.fl.us></span></font> </p>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Check out the Microsoft MapPoint Web Service:</span></font> <br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/mappoint/products/webservice/features.mspx"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://www.microsoft.com/mappoint/products/webservice/features.mspx</span></font></a>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The
MapPoint Web Service utilizes the Group 1's roof top geocoding for batch
processing. Very accurate and 99.9% uptime. </span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Also,
you could use the Virtual Earth API for single point geocoding:</span></font> <br>
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<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/virtualearth/components.mspx"><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://www.microsoft.com/virtualearth/components.mspx</span></font></a>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>"<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Geocoding.</span></b> Get the most accurate locations
around the world with the highest quality geo-coders, such as Group1 GeoStan
geocoding engine in the U.S." - MSFT VE Site</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>No,
need to purchase data or pay outrageous licensing costs for storing it :-)</span></font>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Benton</span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
on behalf of Tripp Corbin<b><span style='font-weight:bold'><br>
Sent:</span></b> Wed 3/21/2007 12:07 PM<b><span style='font-weight:bold'><br>
To:</span></b> Yasar Korkmaz; SHRUG-L@lists.dep.state.fl.us<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'><br>
Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: FL data for Address Geocoding</span></font><br>
<br>
<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>You might want to look on the
Geography Network at </span></font><a href="http://www.geographynetwork.com/"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>www.geographynetwork.com</span></font></a><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>.</span></font> <br>
<br>
<br>
Tripp Corbin, MCP, CFM, GISP <br>
Associate Vice President, GIS/Mapping <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>ESRI Authorized Instructor</span></i> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Keck & Wood, Inc.</span></b> <br>
<a href="http://www.keckwood.com/"><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.keckwood.com</span></font></a>
<br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(678) 417-4013</span></font> <br>
<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(678) 417-8785 fax</span></font> <br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Keck & Wood, Inc</span></b> offers
instructor led and virtual training for ESRI's ArcGIS & ArcView software.<br>
Please visit <a href="http://www.keckwood.com/">www.keckwood.com</a> for more
information including a schedule of upcoming classes. </p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<b><span style='font-weight:bold'><br>
From:</span></b> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Yasar Korkmaz<b><span style='font-weight:bold'><br>
Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:06 PM<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'><br>
To:</span></b> SHRUG-L@lists.dep.state.fl.us<b><span style='font-weight:bold'><br>
Subject:</span></b> shrug-l: FL data for Address Geocoding<br>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hello
everyone:</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am
looking for the most updated FL data for address geocoding (regardless of the
price). I would appreciate greatly if you could share your knowledge about
and/or experience with the existing, most-up-to-date (i.e. best </span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>J</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>) geocoding
data available for Florida.</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks
in advance,</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Yasar
Korkmaz</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Geographic
Information Systems Analyst</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Citizens
Property Insurance Company</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2101
Maryland Circle</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Tallahassee,
FL 32301</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(850)
521 8315</span></font> <br>
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