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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One thing is sure is that those are bad
coordinates because of the lack of projection systems and datum.&nbsp; Keep in
mind that latitude (usually refer to Y) values do not exceed 90 degree or (90x60)
4500 minute or 324,000 (90x3600) seconds. </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There is a good chance that the numbers
were entered by a high school intern.</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Good luck</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William B. Porter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 30, 2007 4:37
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Brandt, Holli;
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: coordinates</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I don't believe you can
divine the source from the numbers as written. </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The apostrophe
[indicating feet?] may be a typo or translation error from Unix to Windows.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The same numbers are used
in UTM and state plane grids all over the world.&nbsp; That's pretty much the
purpose of numbers and Cartesian coordinate grids.&nbsp; There is nothing that
makes these numbers unique to&nbsp;Florida, Canada or Iraq</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#003300'>William
Porter </span></font><font size=1 face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><a href="mailto:William.porter@famu.edu">William.porter@famu.edu</a></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>GIS/GPS Application
Coordinator </span></font><font size=1 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>850 412 5598</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Enterprise Information
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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>Florida
A&amp;M University</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>1601 S. ML
King Blvd</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>TLH FL 32307</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brandt, Holli<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 30, 2007 2:26
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> shrug-l: coordinates</span></font></p>

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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Hello
Shruggers &#8211;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I
am sure one of you out there can help me to figure this out so that I do not
have to spend any more time than necessary on it, especially since I
don&#8217;t have any more time.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>What
format are these coordinates in?</span></font></p>

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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Lat (X coordinate)
2,447'064.00</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Long (Y coordinate)
9,632'845.00</span></font></p>

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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>And
how do I get them to DMS?</span></font></p>

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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Thanks
&#8211; Holli </span></font></p>

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