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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>Yeah, all we have is ArcEditor. [sigh]</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>We are trying to convince the "Powers That Hold The Purse Strings" that
Maplex is a necessity. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>In the meantime - we make do. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>Annotation - for reasons to lengthy to go into here - does not work well
for us. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>Basically - we just have too many labels and too little time.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>We have to crank out plotter sized maps really quickly (2-3 day
turnaround). </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>For instance - </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>all of the postal geography for Chicagoland, down to
each postal carrier route. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>I appreciate your feedback about Maplex - maybe someday
we'll get it. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>Or someday ESRI will relent and make it part of the core
product!</FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655463714-25072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>PS - CAD is fascinating to me - I'd love to learn more about it one
day!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tripp
Corbin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:28 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap
document for use in Adobe Illustrator<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=398412414-25072007><FONT face=Arial>The Maplex does come with
ArcInfo automatically. You do have to purchase it as an extension if you
are using ArcView or ArcEditor. I personally, coming for the CAD world
originally, prefer to use Annotation. I like having the control
Annotation allows over labels. However if you are planning to use labels
then I agree Maplex is the way to go. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left>Tripp Corbin, MCP,
CFM, GISP</P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left>Associate Vice
President, GIS/Mapping</P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><I>ESRI Authorized
Instructor</I></P>
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Inc.</B></P>
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href="http://www.keckwood.com/"><FONT color=#0000ff><U><FONT
size=2>www.keckwood.com</FONT></U></FONT></A></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><FONT size=2>(678)
417-4013</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><FONT size=2>(678)
417-8785 fax</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><B>Keck & Wood,
Inc</B> offers instructor led and virtual training for ESRI's ArcGIS &
ArcView software.<BR>Please visit <A href="http://www.keckwood.com/"><FONT
color=#0000ff><U>www.keckwood.com</U></FONT></A> for more information
including a schedule of upcoming classes. <BR></P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Nonie
Castro<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:14 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Tim
Spivey; shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l:
Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe Illustrator<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/plain format -->
<P dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS">No - we don't concern ourselves with color exactness
here.<BR>Close enough is good enough for us - and thank Heaven for
that!<BR>In fact - a lot of our deliverables are in pdf form, so it's up to
the end user's printer. </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS"><BR><BR>The thing that causes us the most stress here is
LABELS!<BR>In fact - the comment I made in the Post-Conference Survey to
ESRI is this:</FONT></FONT></P>
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<P dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"><BR>"I was really
disappointed and disheartened that so much development has gone into the
core product, and yet Maplex remains a separate extension. The message of
ESRI seems to be COMMUNICATING with maps - and yet - what could be more
BASIC for communicating geographic information than the LABELS, fer
Heaven's sake? All the time and effort to add so much depth to 9.2 make me
think that the ESRI product is like a completely loaded, state of the art
Lexus. You know - complete with tinted windows, sunroof, seat warmers,
GPS, satellite radio, just anything and everything any driver would want.
But I have to pay extra for the WHEELS. See? "</P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">But - anyway - back to the issue at
hand...<BR>No - I wasn't aware of the ArcPress ripper. <BR>I'll have to look
into that..thanks!</P>
<P dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [</FONT><A
href="mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us"><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS">mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</FONT></A><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS">] On Behalf Of Tim Spivey<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 25,
2007 10:03 AM<BR>To: shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>Subject: RE: shrug-l:
Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe Illustrator<BR><BR>Nonie
-<BR><BR>Just out of curiosity, and as a Mac user frustrated by Windows'
color handling, how do you (or DO you) get a closer match between color
on-screen and output? I have to maintain a set of map books for each printer
(Canon, Savin, Epson) because output color differs so much between
devices.<BR><BR>As to your question, I just work within the limitations of
ArcMap, constantly reminded of its graphics design weaknesses.<BR>You're
probably aware that ArcMap 9.1 (at least) comes with the ArcPress
ripper.<BR><BR>Tim<BR>Tift County GA<BR>(who grew up in Harbor
Bluffs)<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>[</FONT><A
href="mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us"><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS">mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</FONT></A><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS">] On Behalf Of Nonie Castro<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 25,
2007 9:53 AM<BR>To: shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR>Subject: shrug-l:
Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe Illustrator<BR><BR>Hello all -
I'm requesting your opinions here.<BR><BR>We have a need to manipulate our
maps graphically beyond what ArcMap can do.<BR>(Or - what it can do -
software that is specifically for graphics can do better/faster/more
efficiently)<BR><BR>Do any of the rest of you use something besides an
ESRI product to manipulate your maps?<BR>If so - what?<BR><BR>If you have a
graphics program - do you then use any other software, like the Avenza
products - as a "bridge" between the two?<BR><BR>Thank you,<BR>Nonie
Castro<BR>GIS Specialist<BR>Cox Target Media<BR>8605 Largo Lakes
Blvd<BR>Largo, FL 33773<BR>727-399-3000
x3246<BR>www.coxtarget.com<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>SHRUG-L
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