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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I too am often forced to convert labels to
annotation and then drag them to their exact desired locations. If you
have a map with multiple layers that takes time to draw, each time you move an
annotated label, the map will redraw – which is very very painful and
makes the simple task take forever. You could of course turn the other
layers or annotations off – but then you run the risk of moving the
annotation ontop of a feature you would want to be visible. Any clues how
to stop this redraw each time you touch an anno? You should be able to
freeze the map view, or screen view – which probably can be done!?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Sykes, John<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 25, 2007
2:56 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Tim Spivey; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: Exporting
ArcMap document for use in Adobe</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>Actually if you get into the label
(especially using Maplex) you can use all sorts of Visual Basic commands to
format the label, put it on multiple lines, round numbers in the label,
etc. It's really not that complicated either, once you get use to it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tim Spivey<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 25, 2007
2:34 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: Exporting
ArcMap document for use in Adobe</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>At the risk of preaching to the choir
here, with some knowledge of VB scripting in ArcMap/Editor/Info, you can get a
bit more creative with label placement - but I don't claim to have that
knowledge, only access to the online ESRI user forum and folks who know some of
the solutions. For example, you can force labels into two lines of text rather
than just one.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Dunno about you, but I seem to spend half
my map production time hand-placing labels.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:blue'>Tift</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">GA</st1:PlaceName></span></font></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
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shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kyle Schaper<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 25, 2007
11:54 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: Exporting
ArcMap document for use in Adobe</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Nonie -<br>
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I feel your pain. How absolutely ridiculous is it that you cannot move
labels at all until you convert to annotation... Correct me if I am wrong, but
once converted, labels are no longer referencing an attribute table, which from
time to time gets updated, especially when the labels are acre calcs for
example. This means you have to delete them all and start over, hand
placing them one by one again when in reality you may only need to move a few
or only a few were updated. Your only solution from ESRI is to purchase
another extension- maplex, or drop thousands for ArcInfo. What a great
way to appease the customer. <br>
<br>
Aside from the rant, I am with Casey in that we export to PDF and open that up
in Illustrator. This is a terrible workflow that forces most work done to
have to be re-done if map scale is changed or new layers are added, which is
why we only take that route sparingly. Most of the time we put up with
the mediocre at best graphic abilities that Arc has. (What a pitiful lack
of transparency handling --- c'mon!) <br>
<br>
I have not heard of/tried of Avenza --- thanks for the tip!<br>
<br>
Kyle Schaper<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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