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<DIV><SPAN class=838105418-25072007><FONT face=Arial>Labels and/or annotation
are the most time consuming part of any map. I agree. That seems to be true no
matter what software you use. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tim
Spivey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap
document for use in Adobe<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=585362718-25072007>At the risk of preaching to the choir here, with some
knowledge of VB scripting in ArcMap/Editor/Info, you can get a bit more
creative with label placement - but I don't claim to have that knowledge, only
access to the online ESRI user forum and folks who know some of the solutions.
For example, you can force labels into two lines of text rather than just
one.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=585362718-25072007>Dunno about you, but I seem to spend half my map
production time hand-placing labels.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=585362718-25072007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=585362718-25072007>Tim</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=585362718-25072007>Tift County GA</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kyle
Schaper<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:54 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap
document for use in Adobe<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Nonie -<BR><BR>I feel your pain. How absolutely ridiculous is
it that you cannot move labels at all until you convert to annotation...
Correct me if I am wrong, but once converted, labels are no longer referencing
an attribute table, which from time to time gets updated, especially when the
labels are acre calcs for example. This means you have to delete them
all and start over, hand placing them one by one again when in reality you may
only need to move a few or only a few were updated. Your only solution
from ESRI is to purchase another extension- maplex, or drop thousands for
ArcInfo. What a great way to appease the customer. <BR><BR>Aside from
the rant, I am with Casey in that we export to PDF and open that up in
Illustrator. This is a terrible workflow that forces most work done to
have to be re-done if map scale is changed or new layers are added, which is
why we only take that route sparingly. Most of the time we put up with
the mediocre at best graphic abilities that Arc has. (What a pitiful
lack of transparency handling --- c'mon!) <BR><BR>I have not heard of/tried of
Avenza --- thanks for the tip!<BR><BR>Kyle
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