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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=092541720-26072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>TWO MONTHS? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=092541720-26072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>Wow!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=092541720-26072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>We have a two <STRONG><EM>DAY</EM></STRONG>
turnaround!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=092541720-26072007><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"
size=2>How do you do that without losing your mind???</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Kimberly Steele
[mailto:ksteele@co.okaloosa.fl.us] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007
2:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Nonie Castro; Tripp Corbin; Tim Spivey;
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap
document for use in Adobe<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=511175717-26072007><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080>I have been working on the same map for 2 months now trying to
get the annotation to plot legibly and not stepped all over itself, or just
not there because another label superseded it. I do use Mapplex, but it is a
trade off the enhanced features are nice but you sacrifice map redraw time. I
use the pause button but you have to turn it back on the qc your
changes......... even then what you see on screen may look great but the plot
reveals a whole different story.............. I would LOVE to move on to
another project like a month ago. :o)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face="Script MT Bold" color=#0000ff size=4>Kimberly
Steele</FONT></DIV>
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href="mailto:ksteele@co.okaloosa.fl.us">ksteele@co.okaloosa.fl.us</A></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Nonie Castro
[mailto:nonie_castro@coxtarget.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007
3:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tripp Corbin; Tim Spivey;
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap
document for use in Adobe<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=536332820-25072007><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Well, THAT is not
encouraging!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tripp
Corbin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:53 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tim
Spivey; shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l:
Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=838105418-25072007><FONT face=Arial>Labels and/or
annotation are the most time consuming part of any map. I agree. That seems
to be true no matter what software you use. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left>Tripp Corbin, MCP,
CFM, GISP</P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left>Associate Vice
President, GIS/Mapping</P>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tim
Spivey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l: Exporting
ArcMap document for use in Adobe<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=585362718-25072007>At the risk of preaching to the choir here, with
some knowledge of VB scripting in ArcMap/Editor/Info, you can get a bit
more creative with label placement - but I don't claim to have that
knowledge, only access to the online ESRI user forum and folks who know
some of the solutions. For example, you can force labels into two lines of
text rather than just one.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=585362718-25072007>Dunno about you, but I seem to spend half my map
production time hand-placing labels.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=585362718-25072007>Tim</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=585362718-25072007>Tift County GA</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kyle
Schaper<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:54 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: shrug-l: Exporting
ArcMap document for use in Adobe<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Nonie -<BR><BR>I feel your pain. How absolutely
ridiculous is it that you cannot move labels at all until you convert to
annotation... Correct me if I am wrong, but once converted, labels are no
longer referencing an attribute table, which from time to time gets
updated, especially when the labels are acre calcs for example. This
means you have to delete them all and start over, hand placing them one by
one again when in reality you may only need to move a few or only a few
were updated. Your only solution from ESRI is to purchase another
extension- maplex, or drop thousands for ArcInfo. What a great way
to appease the customer. <BR><BR>Aside from the rant, I am with Casey in
that we export to PDF and open that up in Illustrator. This is a
terrible workflow that forces most work done to have to be re-done if map
scale is changed or new layers are added, which is why we only take that
route sparingly. Most of the time we put up with the mediocre at
best graphic abilities that Arc has. (What a pitiful lack of
transparency handling --- c'mon!) <BR><BR>I have not heard of/tried of
Avenza --- thanks for the tip!<BR><BR>Kyle
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