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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=630592015-30102007>Hello Steve,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
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ArcGIS" for 2 days, Nov 15 &16 at a very competitive price (Only
$405). Let me know if you are interested to register as we have few
remaining seats available. I look forward to talking with you
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=630592015-30102007>Jeannette</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><B><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jeannette Sanders,
Ph.D.</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Senior Management Analyst II</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kristal
Walsh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Steve
Carbone<BR><B>Cc:</B> shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
shrug-l: CAD to GIS projection issues<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Steve, I’m in the
same boat with getting many project files that are surveyed or drawn on assumed
coordinates. First off, make sure that you ask your CAD folks to include
references like street intersections, section corners and/or monuments in the
.dwg you end up with. Then bring in the drawing file to ArcMap so you can
link two points from the .dwg to your known ortho. I have used the
georeferencing tools successfully (give or take issues with the rescale tool)
quite often. This can be a less painful process if you bookmark the
location of your .dwg and your ortho before you begin the georef. That way
you don’t have to wait for the redraws from zooming in and out. If you
export to shapefile too early, some of your functionality can be limited.
Turn off all unnecessary layers in the .dwg and then re-symbolize the
layers so that they are more useful to you. This helped me a great deal in
the beginning when I wasn’t familiar with working with CAD in GIS. When
you export to shapefile, only the layers that are turned on will export. Once
you create your links, then save your worldfile and update the georef. The
file should pop right in. Fine adjustments can be done with the scale and shift
tools. Hope this helps. Tripp Corbin has developed a class on working with CAD
in GIS; you might want to contact him about training materials. I’m sure
you will also hear from him on this post. Good luck!
Kristal<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kristal
Walsh, GIS Specialist<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></I></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Baskerville-Donovan,
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">850-438-9662,
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Steve
Carbone [mailto:SCarbone@birkitt.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, October 29, 2007 2:13
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> SHRUG List<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> shrug-l: CAD to GIS projection
issues</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fellow
SHRUGGIES,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have a simple request of all of
you … I need an easy way to project CAD drawings in GIS to GIS coordinate
systems.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here is my
dilemma:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I deal with multiple projects where
CAD drawings are sent to me to overlay onto DOQQs in ArcView. Now some of
the CAD drawings that I get will actually overlay onto my DOQQ, however, they
are a rarity. Most of the drawings show up in <st1:City
w:st="on">Timbuktu</st1:City> and my DOQQ shows up in <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">Florida</st1:State></st1:place>. Now, when
I extract out what I want from the CAD drawing into shapefile format, I cannot
re-project the shapefile to the coordinate system of my choosing. I have
tried to re-project the extracted shapefile by removing the PRJ file, and then
defining a new projection for the shapefile. That has never met with
success. I have resorted to attempting to edit the shapefile and just move
it on top of my DOQQ, which sometimes meets with success, however, other times
not. The CAD designers that create these drawings have no idea what I am
talking about when I ask them to re-project their drawing from CAD (which I have
no idea if that is possible since I have never seen CAD in my life
!!!)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Help
!!!!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I need an easy way to re-project the
CAD extracted shapefiles that can be replicated many times
over.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="COLOR: navy">GIS\IT Specialist</SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT color=navy><SPAN
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