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color:#1F497D'>I got this on one of the many other GIS list groups I am on and
thought I would pass it along. I am currently taking the ArcGIS 10
version of the ArcGIS Desktop II class so I can upgrade my training
authorization. One problem I did encounter was with the driver on my laptop. ArcMap
10 kept crashing anytime I tried to create a new ”Basemap” Layer.
(New thing in Arc 10 that is similar to a group layer but gets cached for
faster draw times) Updated my video driver and all seems well now. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><a href="http://www.keckwood.com/"><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Keck &
Wood, Inc.</span></a></b><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Drew Stephens
[mailto:drew@thegisinstitute.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2010 3:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> North Carolina Local Government Geographic Information Systems
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<b>Subject:</b> [ncgis] ArcGIS 10 experiences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Someone asked about experiences with ArcGIS 10 a week or two
ago, and I saw this summary of a similar question on a Colorado list I'm
still active with. Drew<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Let me start
with a big Thank You! to everyone who took the time to reply and share
their thoughts and experiences with ArcGIS 10. I received about 20 or so
replies to my post (below) last week. In short some folks really like it and
have had no problems while others uninstalled it after a few days as they could
not function. Several folks who responded were kind enough to share very
specific likes & dislikes and instead of trying to summarize them into a
couple of sentences I've put the responses below the original post below so you
can read through them and get what's important to you (can you sent attachments
through this list serve?). I've broken them into what I consider Good,
Bad, and Other - some folks had a little of each and I have split them comments
accordingly. Of course what's good and bad was completely subject to my
Monday morning interpretation so use your own judgement...</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As for my
concern regarding the deprecation document a few folks pointed out that these
types of documents typically come out rather early in the lifecycle so users
can plan accordingly. While I've seen and read deprecation docs in the
past, this is probably the earliest I've seen one - perhaps because I didn't
search as hard before or Esri is doing a better job of getting information out
to it's users.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Shortly after
posting, I found information from Esri stating Service Pack 1 for version 10.0
will be available in the 4th quarter of 2010. We will probably wait until
then to start testing and deploying to core users and shortly there after to
all users so we can be ready to field the questions that will follow.</span> <span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> ---------------------------------------
Original Post
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello List,</span>
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<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'm looking for
some opinions and thought this would be a great place to get quite a few.
We're still running 9.3.1 and are discussing moving up to version 10.0
this winter. While cruising the ESRI site today, I came across a
blog (<a
href="http://blogs.esri.com/Dev/blogs/arcgis/archive/2010/08/19/What-are-the-deprecation-plans-for-ArcGIS-10-and-the-upcoming-release-of-ArcGIS-10.1_3F00_.aspx">http://blogs.esri.com/Dev/blogs/arcgis/archive/2010/08/19/What-are-the-deprecation-plans-for-ArcGIS-10-and-the-upcoming-release-of-ArcGIS-10.1_3F00_.aspx</a>)
discussing functionality depreciation between versions 10.0 and 10.1. </span>
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<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This really
made me wonder about 10.0 - why is there discussion of 10.1 when 10.0 has only
been out for a few months? Are there serious issues with it? Was it
released too soon? ESRI does not have a public timeline for 10.1, so it
could be another year or better away... I just thought it was odd that the
first mention of it I found was the deprecation document and not a 'what is new
and cool' in 10.1 doc. </span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So my question
is this - if you've moved to 10.0 what's your take on it? Feel free to
address anything - installation, converting the license manager, upgrading SDE,
migrating Server apps.... anything you've experienced good or bad. Or if
you haven't switched to 10.0 why not?</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> ---------------------------------------
Responses
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<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Good</span></b>
<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Version 10 is
pretty stable. I’ve been working with it on my production stuff and have
only had a few bug issues. None of them caused me to crash or lose data, so
that’s about par for the course.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The new
editing environment is really great, and I’ll take that even with a few
bugs.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>-----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have been
using it for about 4 weeks. I am happy with ArcInfo so far. The
editing is much more efficient and some other upgrades are nice. I really
have no complaints about Info yet. We are concerned about upgrading
everything else (SDE, Server, etc). At first glance it appears the time
involved is going to be great. A majority of the GIS users in our
organization are casual users of Info and the learning curve is going to be
greater with these users. I am expecting a lot of questions about editing
and other features went. We have one major project and one minor project
in the next year and we fear that if we upgrade the vendors will not be
compatible yet. Also, at first glance it appears that PTLS projects do
not transfer easily to 10. In summary, I am happy with ArcInfo 10 and we
are planning the rest of our upgrade carefully</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There are
some good things but as with every major version the move so much around it
takes a while to get use to.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The license
manager was a clean install on ESRI’s part. My 10.0 license manager
is running 9.x licenses as well and there seems to be no major issues that I
have run into there.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I'm running
10 on my Win7 x64 laptop and 9.3.1 on my Win7 32-bit desktop. As soon as
I can (release of 3rd party add-on), I'll be bringing desktop up to 10.
Cleaner look, easier to program for, just seems quicker for most of the
stuff I do.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Lots of
annoying little changes, mainly things that I'm used to using in a certain way
that have changed where they are or how they work. No real problems or
gripes up to this point.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On the Server
side:</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We have
ArcGIS Server 10 and SDE 10 64bit both installed on Centos (RH5 free version)
and both seem to be working OK so far (once we got the rather complicated Linux
install worked out), however we have not extensively tested these and they are
not currently in a produciton environment. We are close to moving ArcGIS Server
and SDE 10 into our beta environment, so I can tell you more about it in a few
weeks. </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On the
Desktop:</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It installed
fine and I tested out the web-editing functionality against Server 10 that is
now available. That seemed to work fine so far, but again is not tested
extensively. I've seen mention on some of the GIS lists that people are
considering going back to 9.3.1, but these kinds of complaints aren't unheard
of with major ESRI releases...as you know. Talk of v10.1 already does make me
nervous, though.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>v10.0 does
have quite a bit of added functionality, so I'd think it would be worth running
some test installs anyway. I really like the Server 10 improvements so
far...can't say much about desktop at this time.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We are
running 10 on about 3 machines and 1 person is running it every day.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>So far my
experience with 10 has been that it's a huge improvement over 9.3.1.
Starting with the license manager and moving forward, everything is a lot
better. I have more than my fair share of criticism for the GIS monopoly
guys, but they really made some major improvements. I have also read the
deprecation discussion. They plan years in advance when making a software
product this complex, so it's not at all uncommon to discuss 10.1 so soon after
10.0 is released. A large portion of it seems centered around the fact
that they cannot support VBA anymore. Will anybody really miss it?
I surely won't.</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Installation
was no problem (Win 7, 64-bit) except for one thing: Visual C# 2010 Express
Edition is not supported (although full Visual Studio 2010 that you pay for
is), so I had to stick with 2008 C# Express Edition. The license manager
is excellent. You can check out licenses from the license manager now,
which means I don't have to carry around a USB key and run a license server on
my laptop anymore when I'm away from a network connection. Editing has
been completely overhauled. Much better raster format support now -
they're using GDAL (gasp! open source!). There's a big focus on 3D,
and even though it's still kind of pathetic compared to true 3D graphics
software, being able to do at least minor editing in 3D is a big plus.
Network Analyst can do 3D network analysis now. Geostatistical
Analyst received some very important improvements (at least in my work they're
important). The user interface is vastly improved in my opinion.
Open tables don't fight with you anymore, and opening multiple tables
makes no difference. Add-ins make custom tools development less confusing
and easier to deploy. These are just a tiny few improvements that make me
enthusiastic about version 10.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We are doing
development on some big server apps for big clients. We have seen
noticeable improvements in performance on ArcGIS Server 10 versus 9.3.1.
There's enough improvements that convincing xxxx was successful. </span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I can
understand hesitation in installing a dot zero version - it seems like buying a
first-production run of a new car. I've been overwhelmingly surprised at
ArcGIS 10.0 and I don't hesitate recommending it. This is not an easy
recommendation - I'm usually very critical of ArcGIS, especially when slow
performance, un-fixed old bugs, and proof-of-concept tools are marketed as
fully functioning out-of-the-box tools (that don't work unless the stars are in
alignment). It seems that with version 10, a lot of that has been
addressed. I'm certain it'll let me down in some way at some point, but
it hasn't yet. Sure, I wish it was 64-bit and multi-threaded, but it's a
good start in the right direction.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In all
honesty though, it is very stable … the most stable release I’ve
seen come out. Like any release, there will be quirks, but this has been
nice to see it go out.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>….every
release has it’s issues, I think 10 is pretty good…been using it
for awhile (in my infinite spare time). Installation was easy, there are
some small learning curves with the UI, but I really like it….there are a
few things being worked on now</span> <br>
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<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Bad</span></b>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>“I
jumped at 10 (with distain from my co-workers) and installed it on my
production machine (Win 7 64 bit). A mistake!</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>After a few
days on the phone with tech support I reinstalled 9.3.1.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This was a
couple of months ago and I don't recall all the issues. I do know that there
was a known bug with the search tab not working in help. Also the add base map
(from web services) did not work. And I recall stability issues. It just did
not seem ready for release.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have installed
10 on a non-production machine (Win 7 32 bit) and these problems went away.</span>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I don't have
any other impressions yet.”</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>“I
would wait. 10.0 is unstable. Both ArcMap and ArcCatalog wink out
without warning daily. There are many “improvements” which
only serve to frustrate, complicate and mystify (snapping, attribute tables,
table of contents). If you have any customization based on VBA, they may
not work. If you have queries in your map documents (i.e. definition
query to display only certain features) they will not work and will need to be
“fixed”. I had to go through hundreds of queries to change
all of the [ ] brackets to “ “ double quotes around field names.
I had built a little arc objects tool which sped things up but... how
ridiculous! There are other issues, too many to relate or remember.
I was forced to move into a file geodatabase due to an indexing problem
with certain feature classes which would no longer display in 10.0. The
move to FileGDB was in the works anyway but its something to consider.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I am a bit
disappointed to say the least. I know it is partly frustration with the
unfamiliar, but the sudden death stoppage is not just me being a stick in the
mud.”</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I switched to
10.0 about 3 weeks ago. I was on the phone with ESRI on several issues
some of which are now BUGS.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>1st I am not
a “heavy” user by some standards but things I have found are this.</span>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>VBA can be
used but not by default so any code you have that is VBA will not work!
There is a work around but only for 10.0 and it will go away in 10.1.
I did not realize how many simple VBA commands I had in scripts that I
thought were VB Script commands and turned out to be VBA commands.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If you use
TRANSFORM for cad files, this was not enabled in 10.0. Seems like an
earlier version, they just missed this section of code. The tab is there
and all the fields but when you click on apply nothing happens (this to me is a
bug).</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>For sure BUG.
Annotation. I have a Coverage annotation (old ArcINFO coverage)
with street annotation. If it was placed with Point or Point2 it draws
fine. If it was placed with LINE it rotates out of the space it is in.
The solution was to convert the anno coverage to a File Geodatabase but
in 10.0 the problem persist in the conversion. If you step back to 9 and
convert it then the File Geodatabase brings the anno in fine, just have to mess
with size to adjust it back to what you want it at.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Other items
that catch you by surprise: </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>10.0
Geodatabase is not readable in 9.x version. You can create with tool an
9.x database in 10.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>10.0 Layer
file is not readable in 9.x version. You can save as 9.x layer file but
you need to remember.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Editing has
snapping on or off. Near as I can tell when it is on it snaps to all
layers and no way to turn off layers for snapping.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Tables all
open in the same window, with tabs across the bottom. Cannot separate
tables to their own windows that I know of.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>One nuisance
that I think is a bug in tables but don’t know how to report it yet.</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If you have
highlighted and not highlighted records in the table you cannot copy
information from one record to another. This is true for any mixture of
selections. In order to be copied from one record to another all
displayed records must be unselected, or Selected, or Highlighted-Selected but
not a mixture of any of those. This is new in 10.0 and I consider it a
bug even if they don’t. </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>.lock files.
10.0 uses lock files (for example on a roads.shp file = roads.shp.GIS07.3748.2240.sr.lock)
I have had problems with these not releasing and then not being able to move
shape files or Geodatabases. This is much more of a nuisance that the
previous versions of locking out data and the release seems to not work well
and in some cases not at all. I have one database I edited and then went
to move the whole Geodatabase to a new location the next day and it would not
let me as it still had a .lock file in it.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There seems
to be more overhead on loading and it takes noticeably longer to load on
startup.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Because ESRI
customers are also their beta testers.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I'm planning
a downgrade as soon as possible.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I would say,
don’t make the shift just yet. Initially, all of my customized tool
bars had to be redone, then symbol layers, followed by drawing problems where
polylines actually filled in with color/shade, polygons did not coincide with
actual location and looked like a convergence of two different layers, and this
is only my second day using it. I’m thinking about reverting back
to 9.3.1 to avoid any further wastes of time and effort. GIS server seems
ok after day 2</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We loaded it
on a spare XP desktop and it kept blowing up when doing queries and
selections…haven’t touched it since</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>---</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>... the
learning curve is a bit difficult. There are a lot of bugs that seem to
take a lot of our time either by searching online through the blogs and esri's
information or just problem solving on our own. For instance, many of my layers
were not showing up when I zoomed in even though I had no scale set on the
layers. Turned out I had to go into ArcCatalog and reconfigure the layer in the
index tab. Happens to some layers and not others, who knows. Little problems
like that and not having straightforward FGDC metadata templates have been
frustrating. I would recommend that if </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>your office
is in a busy time right now, it might be worth it to wait for the next upgrade.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Because version
10 is a complete overhaul, many things are done in very different ways than
previous versions. For example, something as simple as setting selectable
layers is done in such a different fashion that users may not be able to find
it. Editing, while improved in many ways, is so foreign to the previous
methods that it can be very challenging and frustrating to figure out how to
accomplish a task that was simple before. I liken the changes to the MS
Office 2007 ribbon - everything is more or less there, just in completely
different locations than before. With ArcGIS, not only did the user interface
change, but even the mode of completing many tasks has changed dramatically.
Most tasks have changed for the good, but there are a few that frustrate
me.</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>A few folks
reminded me that deprecation documents are typically released pretty early.
</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The
deprecation list is to inform users of the timeline for products to be
discontinued. For instance, if you’re still using ArcGIS Workstation,
then version 10 is your last gasp because it won’t exist in version 10.1.
They put this list out as far in advance as possible to give users fair warning
about the products they use.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> -----</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have also
read the deprecation discussion. They plan years in advance when making a
software product this complex, so it's not at all uncommon to discuss 10.1 so
soon after 10.0 is released. A large portion of it seems centered around
the fact that they cannot support VBA anymore. </span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Planning way
ahead is nothing new. Historically Esri has always been working a couple
releases ahead of time and doing Research and Development. The
deprecation docs help give users more what to expect. We’re really
advertising them and getting them out as there are some very significant
changes coming out for some of the really old/legacy products (VB, VBA,
Workstation, ArcIMS all going away). We need to communicate this as it
can impact some workflows pretty drastically as there are quite a few that
actually comminute to use them. Also ArcGIS Server at 10.1 is planned to be
64 bit only so that will also impact folks decisions</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>---</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>And finally,
the following are taken completely out of context but thought I’d throw
them out anyway as they made me laugh:</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ArcGIS 10
will make you never want to leave your computer, it is the best product ever!</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>---</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We have not
upgraded sde yet because XXXXXX is a slacker.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>---</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ESRI is
watching you…..</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>---</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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