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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Speaking of AutoCAD in general. In the early 90&#8217;s AutoCAD
had a third party toolbar &#8211; Landmark. These tools allowed line-work to
have attribute data attached similar to that of a block (plus many other tools).
Later, AutoCAD purchased this technology which became AutoCAD MAP which uses
object data association. Digging further into my memory banks&#8230;there was
another product that worked with AutoCAD &#8211; Geo/SQL which used ANSI
standard SQL databases and AutoCAD graphics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We used AutoCAD, the MAP toolbar, the ease of maintaining data
and as Tripp mentioned you could program easily with LISP to tap into this technology.
ArcCAD which was used along with ArcView 3.x we found too cumbersome and not so
easy to use. We primarily used ArcView 3.x to make a pretty map back in the
days&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Wow&#8230;some of us are aging ourselves! Enjoy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kim Paxton, GISP</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>GIS Manager</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>911 Coordinator</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Putnam County IT/GIS Office</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>P.O. Box 307</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Palatka, FL 32178-0307</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>phone: 386.326.2749</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>fax: 386.329.0215</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:kim.paxton@putnam-fl.com">kim.paxton@putnam-fl.com</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><a href="http://gis.putnam-fl.com">http://gis.putnam-fl.com</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tripp Corbin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jordan, Jack; shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: shrug-l: SHRUG 2010 Workshop Panel Discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Let&#8217;s not forget the use of various CAD packages as simple
GIS platforms. As an engineering outfit, I know that was where we started. We
even wrote our own application which ran on top of AutoCAD which allowed users
to map an entire city or county in AutoCAD on old 386 and 486 machines pretty
efficiently. It even had some simple query tools and batch booklet plotting
routines. Then in the 90s there was an attempt by Autodesk and ESRI to work
together with the ArcCAD product. It was one of the first GIS software apps I
ever used. It had all the easy drawing tools of AutoCAD with most of the
analysis and graphics tools of ArcView. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tripp
Corbin, MCP, CFM, GISP<br>
Vice President, GIS/IT<br>
<i>ESRI Authorized Instructor</i><br>
<i>CompTIA Certified Technical Trainer</i><br>
<b><a href="http://www.keckwood.com/"><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Keck &amp;
Wood, Inc.</span></a></b><br>
(678) 417-4013<br>
(678) 417-4055 fax<br>
<br>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jordan, Jack<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: shrug-l: SHRUG 2010 Workshop Panel Discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>In the late 70s and early 80s there was EDC&#8217;s ELAS for image
processing on mainframe and desktop, by the 90s numerous image-proc/raster-GIS
packages for desktop (the big distinction at that time was between softwares
that could perform geocorrection of raw imagery to image-maps&#8230;and those
that could not).&nbsp; Development environments could avail themselves of
Arc&#8217;s toolkit for vectors, and RSI&#8217;s IDL for custom image-proc.&nbsp;
Data transfer and storage improved dramatically, from early desktops of less
than 1 Gb harddrive crunching data accessed via 9track tapedrives, wormdrives,
Kermit, and Laplink; and satellite imagery searched via card-catalog and
delivered on tape reels by everything from postman to elephant-back, to the
modern situation of downloadable vector datasets and online search-n-order of
on-the-fly preprocessed satellite imagery (mid 90s EOSDIS). &nbsp;The
peripherals related to raster/vector GIS improved enormously, from light-tables
and digitizing tablets to large-format scanners, from fridge-sized screenshot
35-mm slidemakers to PPT, from alphabetic-plotters (still useful for colorblind
folks or faxes) to pen-plotters and finally to color laser printers.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Jack Jordan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>FLDEP-BMMR<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>(yeah, yeah, books had already replaced scrolls, and tapes had
replaced Bakelite cylinders </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> )<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The
Department of Environmental Protection values your feedback as a customer. DEP
Secretary Mimi Drew is committed to continuously assessing and improving the
level and quality of services provided to you. Please take a few minutes to
comment on the quality of service you received. Simply click on <a
href="http://survey.dep.state.fl.us/?refemail=Jack.Jordan@dep.state.fl.us"
target="_blank">this link to the DEP Customer Survey</a>. Thank you in advance
for completing the survey.</span></em><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pollock,
William<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jim@GPServ.com; Eric_Songer@URSCorp.com; C. Henry Depew;
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: shrug-l: SHRUG 2010 Workshop Panel Discussion</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Robeson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eric_Songer@URSCorp.com; 'C. Henry Depew';
shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: shrug-l: SHRUG 2010 Workshop Panel Discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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vs slops&#8230;&#8230;&nbsp; That was in 1984.&nbsp; I ended up using it on a
CDAMA by IBM.&nbsp; A very new mini computer workstation.&nbsp; &nbsp;I forget
what LAND stands for .&nbsp; I&#8217;d have to dig up an old
resume&#8230;&nbsp; So much started as a 1&#8217;s and 0&#8217;s on a dot
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shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric_Songer@URSCorp.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> C. Henry Depew; shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: shrug-l: SHRUG 2010 Workshop Panel Discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There was a lot
of GIS going on. &nbsp;There was ESRI (only Arcinfo), Intergraph, GRASS.
&nbsp;A lot of government grant money for universities. &nbsp;LandSat had been
around for 10 years and people were doing classifications and trying to analyze
the results. &nbsp;The WMD's were already using Arcinfo. &nbsp;I used Arcinfo
20 years ago and it was version 4.3 so it had been around for awhile. &nbsp;I
did my thesis (1985-87) with custom software based on IMGRID software written
at Harvard in the mid 70's when Jack Dangermond was a grad student there.
&nbsp;We had computer science students customize routines for our analyses.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Google search
something like &quot;+imgrid gis harvard&quot;. &nbsp;It's interesting history.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks,<br>
<br>
Eric Songer, GISP &nbsp;| &nbsp;Tallahassee Office URS &nbsp;|
&nbsp;Infrastructure GIS Lead<br>
1625 Summit Lake Drive, Tallahassee, FL, 32317<br>
850-574-3197 &nbsp;| &nbsp;eric_songer@urscorp.com</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Greetings!</span></tt><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;If the time does not conflict with one of my
presentation </tt><br>
<tt>assignments, I would be interested. &nbsp;My only question is the bit </tt><br>
<tt>about the History of GIS since I only started in 1994 although I did </tt><br>
<tt>work with mainframe computer programs to map things back in 1969 or </tt><br>
<tt>1970. &nbsp;Given the capacity of the mainframes back then, what GIS was </tt><br>
<tt>being run 20 some years ago? .</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>C. Henry Depew</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>At 03:10 PM 11/1/2010, Brown, Janelle wrote:</tt><br>
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<tt>&gt;Hello everyone,</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;This year we would like to conduct panel discussions as part of our </tt><br>
<tt>&gt;concurrent speaker sessions. Possible topics would include the </tt><br>
<tt>&gt;History of GIS (for practioners with 20+ years of experience), the </tt><br>
<tt>&gt;Future of GIS (discussion about what the future holds for GIS) and </tt><br>
<tt>&gt;possibly a technical panel, where we could have a Question and Answer
segment.</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;If you would like to participate as a member on any of these panels </tt><br>
<tt>&gt;or have suggestions for panel discussion topics, please contact me.</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;Thanks!</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;Janelle Brown</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;GIS Analyst</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;Transportation Statistics Office</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;Florida Department of Transportation</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;605 Suwannee Street</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0450</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;Phone: 850 414-4739</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;Email: Janelle.Brown@dot.state.fl.us</tt><br>
<tt>&gt;</tt><br>
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