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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>William<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You are correct ArcGIS Server Standard and Advanced editions replace ArcIMS. Both of these allow you to serve maps services and websites like ArcIMS. So there is now need to install both if all you are concerned with is being able to serve up map services.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you only have ArcGIS Server Basic, then you would need to install ArcIMS to serve up map services. ArcGIS Server Basic is really just ArcSDE. It has not ability to serve up web based map services or applications. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am not sure if you can run ArcGIS Server Standard or Advanced on the same machine that is running ArcIMS. I have never tried that. Would be interesting to know though. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>As you are finding ArcGIS Server can be a bear to getting installed and running properly. Especially on newer machines running Windows 7 or Server 2008. One trick I have found which works often is to run everything as the Administrator. By this I mean as the actual default Administrator user. Not as yourself with administrator rights. I know it should not make a difference but it certainly seems too quite often. Also make sure you have all the patches installed. Some of these require a specific order to install properly. Unfortunately Microsoft doesn’t provide that order and will try to install patches before the other required ones are installed. Also reboot frequently between install of updates. Even if it does say you have too. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Double and triple check your IIS install. IIS 7 is a very different creature from past versions and it must be set up just so for ArcGIS Webservices to run. There are a lot of required extras that you must install with IIS for ArcGIS Server. This article might be helpful:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.egisassociates.com/index.php/newsreader/items/arcserver_win2008.html">http://www.egisassociates.com/index.php/newsreader/items/arcserver_win2008.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Tripp Corbin, MCP, CFM, GISP | Vice President, GIS/IT<br></span><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Footlight MT Light","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.keckwood.com/"><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>K</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>ECK</span><span style='font-size:18.0pt'> & W</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>OOD,</span><span style='font-size:18.0pt'> I</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>NC</span><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>.</span></a></span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>2</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>750 Premiere Parkway, Suite 900, Duluth, GA 30097<br>Direct (678) 417-4013 | Main (678) 417-4000 | Fax (678) 417-4055<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Esri Certified Trainer | Esri Certified Desktop Associate<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Porter, William B.<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br><b>Subject:</b> shrug-l: Question 2<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve run ArcIMS versions since the first really clumsy version based on ArcView [that came out in ~1987]. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Now it would seem ArcServer largely replaces ArcIMS. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Are there any long-time users of ArcIMS that can corroborate this? Is there any reason to install ArcIMS on the same server that I install ArcServer? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Is there any reason not to install ArcIMS on the same server I installed ArcServer? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>William B. Porter <b><a href="mailto:william.porter@famu.edu">william.porter@famu.edu</a> 412 5972<o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>Application Coordinator for GIS / Infrastructure<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>Florida A&M University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>EIT / GIS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>1601 S. 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