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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Here are a couple observations from a couple preliminary tests. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Open ArcCatalog, created a new PGDB, create a new (empty) polygon feature class there. --- everything is brand new with 10 and SP2.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Opened ArcMap and added a few circles and rectangles to the new feature class and gave each feature a name. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Saved the edits/features, saved the work as a new MXD, and exit ArcMap. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Reopened ArcMap and the MXD, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>started Edit session, everything is fine. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Then,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'> Added a query to select only some features (not all) and then restarted a new edit session, now nothing was editable. Duplicated the map layer and then removed the query in the duplicated layer, you are good on the duplicated layer, but not on the one with a query sitting on it (both have the same data source!). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Similarly, if deleted some feature(s) and saved the work. You would be out of luck when you come back to edit the same layer. However, if you export the entire layer, you will be OK with the exported layer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Observations:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>If there is a feature(s) missing or excluded by a query, an edit template is NOT going to be created. No edit template no editing! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>If there is a gap in the ObjectID’s, it appears no editing is allowed (no edit template). This has been shown that when a data layer was exported, the newly exported one would become editable --- an export leads to “packing” the ObjectID and eliminating the gap(s) in the ObjectID’s. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> I think both are good candidates for the library ESRI used to call “Undocumented Functionality”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yurong Tan, PhD<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Program Analyst (GIS)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'>Office of Healthcare Inspections (54B)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'>VA Office of Inspector General<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel: (352) 376-1611 x4699 (office)<i><o:p></o:p></i></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tan, Yurong (OIG)<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:10 AM<br><b>To:</b> shrug-L@lists.dep.state.fl.us<br><b>Subject:</b> shrug-l: Any suggestions --- Reversing ArcMap editing from 10 to9.x?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I recently upgraded to 10 and applied SP2, thinking this might be time to make the move, but I constantly encountered misgivings. And today, I was told I have an option to switch the editor back 9.3.1 in order to continue what I am doing (editing a simple polygon layer in a PGDB). I am not sure this is the right option.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The problem is the new ArcMap 10 editor. It constantly “corrupt” something --- the new edit template, the data layer or something that would either prohibit editing or cause you to inadvertently edit something of some layer somewhere because of a corrupt template. A few weeks ago, I ended up exporting the entire data layer in order to continue because I was told the data layer was corrupt (by it?) and today, I was told I have an option to switch back the editor to 9.3? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am not sure what I miss. Does anyone have something to share? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yurong Tan, PhD<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Program Analyst (GIS)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'>Office of Healthcare Inspections (54B)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'>VA Office of Inspector General<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel: (352) 376-1611 x4699 (office)<i><o:p></o:p></i></span></b></p></div></div></body></html>