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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Jacob Coble<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:33 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Bendis, Joe; Jim@gpserv.com; SHRUG; Sandell, Keith<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under</span></font><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Segoe UI"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Segoe UI"">Seriously, maybe whenever anyone runs across something this bad in Google, they should share it with this group. We could have a few examples to use
whenever a bean counter says, "We don't need GIS, Google is good enough." Can you imagine several more examples like the one Joe sent? An accurate GIS map made with good local data vs. a flawed Google map of the same area.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" face="Segoe UI"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI"">Maybe this could be a S.H.R.U.G. poster contest - each poster would feature a quality GIS map on one half and an inaccurate
Google map of the same area on the other half. What if we had several such posters, the PDF files could be shared. Anytime people needed to describe to the powers that be the value of their GIS program, they could print these posters and show them (even if
the poster is not of their locality - the point is to show that Google is not sufficient for many uses). And it is not only imagery problems - we all have seen problems in the Google streets vs. local data. A picture is worth a thousand words.<br>
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<strong><b><font face="Segoe UI"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI"">Jacob Coble, GISP</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Segoe UI"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Segoe UI"">GIS Specialist II<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Tallahassee-Leon</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">
County</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">GIS</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Leon</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">
County</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> Courthouse, Level P-3<br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">301 S. Monroe St</st1:address></st1:Street>.<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Tallahassee</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">
FL</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">32301</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
PH (850) 606-5504<br>
FAX (850) 606-5501<br>
coblej@leoncountyfl.gov <br>
www.tlcgis.org <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Segoe UI"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Segoe UI"">>>> "Joe Bendis" <jbendis@sgrc.us> 2/1/2012 1:14 PM >>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">An NEVER try to navigate “Local” waters either Jim (<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Lanark</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Village</st1:PlaceType>) just south of <st1:place w:st="on">
<st1:City w:st="on">Tallahassee</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">FL.</st1:State></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The island locally know as
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Bird</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">
Island</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> or Lanark Reef is almost completely missing from Google
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Same area with Bing from a GIS project Basemap<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" color="#4d6800" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#4D6800;font-style:italic">Joseph E. Bendis</span></font></i><i><font size="3" color="#4d6800"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#4D6800;font-style:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><st1:place w:st="on"><i><font size="2" color="#4d6800" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#4D6800;font-style:italic">Southern Georgia</span></font></i></st1:place><i><font color="#4d6800"><span style="color:#4D6800;font-style:italic">
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<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">W. Savannah Ave.</st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" color="#4d6800" face="Calibri"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#4D6800;font-style:italic">Valdosta, GA 31601<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" color="#4d6800" face="Calibri"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#4D6800;font-style:italic">229-333-5277 x143<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" color="#4d6800" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#4D6800;font-style:italic"><a href="mailto:jbendis@sgrdc.com"><font color="#4d6800"><span lang="PT-BR" style="color:#4D6800">jbendis@sgrc.us</span></font></a></span></font></i><i><font color="#4d6800"><span lang="PT-BR" style="color:#4D6800;font-style:italic"><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Keith Sandell<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:59 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jim@gpserv.com; SHRUG<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Have they sued Google yet for sinking their ships?
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Because as we all know Google is always “right” and that’s why we don’t need GIS people. (you can’t hear the extreme sarcasm in my voice, but it’s
there trust me)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Reminds me of a time when a Google sales person was pitching some of their products to me and repeatedly told me that with “our” products you don’t
need GIS people, yea sign me up for that…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Good example to keep around the next time management or politicians say, “Why do we need you, we have Google!”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">They just might sink you ship!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks for sharing Jim.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:gray">GIS Manager, Corporate Analytics<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us] <b><span style="font-weight:
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</span></b>Jim Robeson<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:37 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'SHRUG'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> shrug-l: New under water ships down under<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Interesting things afoot in
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sydney</st1:place></st1:City> harbor. The Australians have new submergible ships. That is how it appears in Google Earth. Nice job guys!!! Thought The GIS community might find this humorous.
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