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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>GPS, clearly is not. In the moving of data back and forth from system to system you do get rounding. Over the years positional dada can move. 13 decimal places is a case of just because you can, should you? <o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>R</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>egards,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"ParkAvenue BT";color:#1F497D'>Jim Robeson<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Freestyle Script";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>James M. 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For decimal degrees that would be .00001mm. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Using a greater number of significant digits in a calculation than a device is capable of measuring will just lead to false precision.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Lance Peterson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>ISS Systems Developer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>City of Tallahassee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>850-891-2019<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a> [<a href="mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us">mailto:shrug-l-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sykes, John<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us">shrug-l@lists.dep.state.fl.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> shrug-l: Lat/Long Tool<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Before ArcGIS 10.2, I had a dynamite tool from the USDA National Forest Service out of Santa Fe, NM, that could be added to a toolbar and would allow you to click on a point and it would give you a pop-up with the latitude & longitude to about 6 or more decimal places in the seconds field (e.g., 26° 15’ 20.546947”) and decimal degrees to about 13 decimal places. Of course, it no longer works with 10.2.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Now before you say no one needs that kind of accuracy I say, wrong! Just look at any CORS station, which is listed in DMS to 5 decimal places as is all USGS marker data. This tool had those locations nailed to all five decimal places!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The DEP tool is less useful that the ArcGIS readout both of which are 2 decimal places in DMS format (the ArcGIS readout can give higher accuracy if used in the degrees, decimal minutes format – go figure).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>GIS and GPS are getting way more accurate, we need GIS tools that have the same level of accuracy.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>But enough of the preaching, the original question is, does anyone have or know of a lat/long tool with about 6 decimal accuracy in DMS mode that works with 10.2?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT"'>-- John</span></b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>