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<DIV><SPAN class=858290122-21112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
sad thing about all of this is the easiest solution for individuals would
have been for people to have been allowed to take their waste pills back to
pharmacies and have the pharmacy add the waste pills to their normally
generated waste pills to be sent back to the redistributions centers for
disposal as a waste.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Charles Emery III</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Environmental Manager</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>South District
FDEP</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Box 2549</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Fort Myers, FL 33902-2549</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Phone (239)
332-6975</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>FAX (239) 332-6969</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Charles.Emery@DEP.STATE.FL.US.</FONT> </P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
sqg-program-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:sqg-program-bounces@lists.dep.state.fl.us]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Perrigan, Glen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:39
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Sqg-program@lists.dep.state.fl.us;
flhhw@lists.dep.state.fl.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Sqg-program] FW: Unwanted Meds
in the Landfill Questions - foodfor thought<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Farouk: Thanks for
asking some important questions about this issue. Some food for
thought:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l4 level1 lfo1"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The idea is to
prevent these medicines from getting into our wastewater treatment plants,
right? </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don’t think at this point we can
prevent medications from getting into our wastewater treatment plants because
unabsorbed medications and their metabolites are excreted from humans no
matter how we dispose with the unused medications. However, we can reduce or
delay the quantity that goes there by reducing the amounts that are flushed in
favor of disposal with the garbage. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So, let us send
them to landfills with the garbage, right?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">After landfilling
them, they will come out with the leachate, right or
wrong?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p> </LI></OL>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Not necessarily. Recall that some of our garbage is bound for waste to
energy where the fate of organics (many pharms are organics) is quite
different than in a landfill. Landfill fate: As I understand it, we do
not monitor leachate for pharmaceuticals or their metabolites at this time. If
that is the case, we do not know what fraction of pharmaceuticals report to
leachate v. are transformed v. are sequestered in a landfill environment.
There is research going on right now at U of F on fate of ~10 pharmaceuticals
in simulated landfill environment (results about 10 months out).
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The leachate goes
to the wastewater treatment plants, right?
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes it does. If we do determine
that we need to remove pharmaceuticals from wastewater to certain maximum
concentrations, it would seem to me to be much easier and more cost effective
to pretreat ~100 leachate sources (landfills) rather than every drop of
wastewater from every toilet, urinal and sink drain in the state.
Perhaps selected pretreatment would even reduce wastewater pharmaceutical
loadings such that treatment of all wastewater would be unnecessary or at
least cheaper. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo4"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Finally, we are
back to square one, right? </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Not at all: we are taking a basic,
reasoned and practical proactive step to reduce or delay the environmental
burden. That step is based upon incomplete science that suggests that we have
a problem but is not conclusive about that. The answer to “What is the
solution?” is even more inconclusive than the answer to “What is the problem?
How serious is that problem?” We need to carefully consider whether
expensive regulations, e.g., new and tougher wastewater treatment standards
and processes, are warranted given suggestive but inconclusive knowledge about
the problem we are trying to solve. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As always, I welcome
your thoughts and am open to discussing at any time. Please copy David
and Victor as I do not have their email addresses. Thanks again for your
feedback. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best,
Jack.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">John L. (Jack)
Price</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Environmental
Manager</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Hazardous Waste Management MS
4555</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Florida Department of Environmental
Protection</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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w:st="on">32399-2400</st1:PostalCode></SPAN></FONT></st1:place><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">john.l.price@dep.state.fl.us</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">www.dep.state.fl.us/waste</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Please Note:
<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Florida</st1:place></st1:State> has
a very broad public records law. Most written communications to or from
state officials regarding state business are public records available to the
public and media upon request. Your e-mail is communications and may
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Farouk
M. El-Shamy [mailto:felshamy@pascocountyfl.net] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, November 17, 2006 10:16
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Perrigan,
Glen<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> David James; Victor
Norka<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Glen: I received a copy of your
flyer on proper disposal of unneeded medicine. I just have a thought to share
with you.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<OL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type=1 start=6>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo5"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The idea is to
prevent these medicines from getting into our wastewater treatment plants,
right?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo5"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So, let us send
them to landfills with the garbage, right?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo5"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">After landfilling
them, they will come out with the leachate, right or
wrong?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo5"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The leachate goes
to the wastewater treatment plants, right?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo5"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Finally, we are
back to square one, right?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p> </LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How about that for a Friday
morning?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sincerely,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Farouk</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>