[Pharmwaste] RE: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7

Pistell, Ann E Ann.E.Pistell at maine.gov
Wed Dec 16 11:39:05 EST 2009


There are several studies that I know of concerning pharmaceutical contamination through applied sludge.  One especially credible one, by the USGS found pharms in worms in fields where sludge had been applied.  Link is attached. Let's recognize that many of these compounds are persistent and bioaccululative.

http://toxics.usgs.gov/highlights/earthworms.html 

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   1. Re: Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3 (EKrisiunas at aol.com)
   2. RE: Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3 (Gilliam, Allen)
   3. RE: Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3
      (Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA))
   4. Richard Iniguez/OnyxES is out of the office.
      (Richard.Iniguez at veoliaes.com)
   5. Monroe County, NY pharm collection program
      (TSinclair at monroecounty.gov)
   6. RE: Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3 (Gressitt, Stevan)
   7. Pilot Study on the Feasibility of Composting Drugs (Brian Stenz)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:53:59 EST
From: EKrisiunas at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3
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I second Stevan's comments!  We need more research like this!!
 
Regards,
 
 
 
Ed Krisiunas,  MT(ASCP), MPH
President
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:21:56 -0600
From: "Gilliam, Allen" <GILLIAM at adeq.state.ar.us>
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3
To: "'EKrisiunas at aol.com'" <EKrisiunas at aol.com>,
	"Stevan.Gressitt at maine.gov" <Stevan.Gressitt at maine.gov>,
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I know it's been discussed, but if I'm not mistaken, EPA is currenly looking into the uptake of some meds into muni-biosolids amended crops.  Worst case would be if they find drugs migrating and bioaccumulating into the potential food chain beginning with hay, corn, maize, etc, then possibly into our cattle, chickens, etc.  I guess one could eat his/her fresh veggies from the biosolids-amended compost they've spread on their garden and get their BP meds this way.  What a way to cut down on medicare costs....

If some of these medications are as persistent as the plastics, I'm of the opinion, public opinion would shut this door quicker'n gnat's gas.  We'll have to see (i.e.: make a note for your granchillen considering EPA's pace).

Allen g
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Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3


I second Stevan's comments!  We need more research like this!!

Regards,



Ed Krisiunas, MT(ASCP), MPH
President
WNWN International
Waste Not, Want Not
PO Box 1164
Burlington, Connecticut
06013
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:37:27 -0600
From: "Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA)" <Jennifer.Volkman at state.mn.us>
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3
To: "Gilliam, Allen" <GILLIAM at adeq.state.ar.us>,
	"'EKrisiunas at aol.com'" <EKrisiunas at aol.com>,
	"Stevan.Gressitt at maine.gov" <Stevan.Gressitt at maine.gov>,
	"brian at returnlogistics.com" <brian at returnlogistics.com>,
	"pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us" <pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
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There was a post awhile back and the U of M has already proven that plants take up pharms.  I figure I get all the antibiotics and growth hormones I need from Coca Cola via the corn syrup.  I think both of the attachments reference the same study.

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To: 'EKrisiunas at aol.com'; Stevan.Gressitt at maine.gov; brian at returnlogistics.com; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3

I know it's been discussed, but if I'm not mistaken, EPA is currenly looking into the uptake of some meds into muni-biosolids amended crops.  Worst case would be if they find drugs migrating and bioaccumulating into the potential food chain beginning with hay, corn, maize, etc, then possibly into our cattle, chickens, etc.  I guess one could eat his/her fresh veggies from the biosolids-amended compost they've spread on their garden and get their BP meds this way.  What a way to cut down on medicare costs....

If some of these medications are as persistent as the plastics, I'm of the opinion, public opinion would shut this door quicker'n gnat's gas.  We'll have to see (i.e.: make a note for your granchillen considering EPA's pace).

Allen g
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Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3


I second Stevan's comments!  We need more research like this!!

Regards,



Ed Krisiunas, MT(ASCP), MPH
President
WNWN International
Waste Not, Want Not
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Burlington, Connecticut
06013
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:01:51 -0600
From: Richard.Iniguez at veoliaes.com
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Richard Iniguez/OnyxES is out of the office.
To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
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I will be out of the office starting  12/06/2009 and will not return until
12/14/2009.

I will respond to your message when I return.



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:15:13 -0500
From: TSinclair at monroecounty.gov
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Monroe County, NY pharm collection program
To: "pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us"
	<pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
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Here is information on Monroe County (NY) pharm waste collection program.


http://www.monroecounty.gov/?q=node/5549////communications
http://www.monroecounty.gov/?q=node/5530////communications
http://www.monroecounty.gov/?q=node/5633////communications

Thanks,
T M S

Thomas M. Sinclair - Industrial Waste Engineer/
HHW Coordinator

Monroe County Dept. of Environmental Services
444 East Henrietta Road
Rochester, New York 14620
Ph (585) 753.7553     Fax (585) 324.1212
Cell (585) 509-2852
www.monroecounty.gov



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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:54:28 -0500
From: "Gressitt, Stevan" <Stevan.Gressitt at maine.gov>
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3
To: "Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA)" <Jennifer.Volkman at state.mn.us>,
	"Gilliam, Allen" <GILLIAM at adeq.state.ar.us>, <EKrisiunas at aol.com>,
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Please note that that is not the case if you simply stick to real Maple
Syrup. There is no corn syrup in the real stuff.....maybe a few flies
might get in the buckets we use at the house, but the commercial
operators on big farms have a totally enclosed plastic tubing system so
you can be sure there are no bugs.....

Stevan Gressitt, M.D., Medical Director
Office of Adult Mental Health Services
Department of Health and Human Services
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11 State House Station
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From: Volkman, Jennifer (MPCA) [mailto:Jennifer.Volkman at state.mn.us] 
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:37 PM
To: Gilliam, Allen; 'EKrisiunas at aol.com'; Gressitt, Stevan;
brian at returnlogistics.com; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3

There was a post awhile back and the U of M has already proven that
plants take up pharms.  I figure I get all the antibiotics and growth
hormones I need from Coca Cola via the corn syrup.  I think both of the
attachments reference the same study.

-----Original Message-----
From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Gilliam,
Allen
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:22 PM
To: 'EKrisiunas at aol.com'; Stevan.Gressitt at maine.gov;
brian at returnlogistics.com; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3

I know it's been discussed, but if I'm not mistaken, EPA is currenly
looking into the uptake of some meds into muni-biosolids amended crops.
Worst case would be if they find drugs migrating and bioaccumulating
into the potential food chain beginning with hay, corn, maize, etc, then
possibly into our cattle, chickens, etc.  I guess one could eat his/her
fresh veggies from the biosolids-amended compost they've spread on their
garden and get their BP meds this way.  What a way to cut down on
medicare costs....

If some of these medications are as persistent as the plastics, I'm of
the opinion, public opinion would shut this door quicker'n gnat's gas.
We'll have to see (i.e.: make a note for your granchillen considering
EPA's pace).

Allen g
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[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of
EKrisiunas at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:54 PM
To: Stevan.Gressitt at maine.gov; brian at returnlogistics.com;
pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Re: Pharmwaste Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3


I second Stevan's comments!  We need more research like this!!

Regards,



Ed Krisiunas, MT(ASCP), MPH
President
WNWN International
Waste Not, Want Not
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Burlington, Connecticut
06013
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:36:46 -0500
From: Brian Stenz <brian at returnlogistics.com>
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Pilot Study on the Feasibility of Composting
	Drugs
To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
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Thanks to the many on this list that sent me comments and questions  
regarding the pilot study on the feasibility of composting drugs we  
did over 10 years ago. I've attached the Final Report for anyone that  
may be interested.

I only wish I had access back then to the expertise that exists on  
this list, the methodology and labs for detecting drugs in our  
compost. Maybe it would of made better sense and offered direction to  
pursue it further.

Brian Stenz
Return Logistics International Corporation
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